Justin, while most of us greatly appreciate your insights and presentations and maybe even some of your opinions, our standards require no ad hominem attacks. By definition, true or not, calling a person a fool falls into that category. As a moderator I must ask you to please cease and desist.
Thanks. On Sep 1, 3:33 am, Justintruth <[email protected]> wrote: > Guess again, my friend, guess again! > > > The new world order is being written in here right before your > > upturned eyes! > > Its not new. We've been making progress for millenium! And we are > still making progress. > > The colors explode like a fireworks show to “oohs and > > > ahhs” of the crowd but the sparks soon fizzle out and never actually > > touch the ground, as all fireworks do. They dazzle with light and > > color and sizzle with wisdom in their intense insight but then sputter > > out and fall as ashes to the earth, which where we humans actually > > stand and watch. The speeches burst in the sky, and they just keep > > coming, like a show that never ends. They are a spectacle to behold, > > no doubt, but only in their vision, until they burn out long before > > touching the earth. > > Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! Wow! Your the one with > the incandsent and vacuous language. > > But yours doesn't seem to lead anywhere? Why? We are all trying to > understand. Why don't you, instead of asking us to give you back your > own ideas, why don't you just lay yours out. Do you know the > relationship between Minds Eye and money? Can you further any > understanding? Do you know of some action we all should be taking? If > so, make it plain. Tell us. Or are you going to keep calling for > others to .... finally.... write down what you think... so you can > congratulate them on finally understanding. > > > There is the “conspiracy” speech, the “cynical” speech, the > > “blame” speech, the “we are all one” speech, the “we are all equal” > > speech, the “we need to evolve beyond this” speech, the “we help the > > needy” speech, the “selfish is bad” speech, the “we will defeat you” > > speech (some contradiction there) , the “I know best” speech, (which > > is EVERY single speech, let‘s just be honest!) the , “I have the > > answer” speech, the “I have more experience” speech, the “philosophy > > is not the answer“ speech, yet the philosophy keeps coming in these > > speeches…the “we don‘t need money“ speech, > > How about the "I've heard it all before speech!" > > > > > …...but every one of these speeches have one crucial fault in common. > > None of them describe the “mechanics” of the new world order that > > their speech is supposedly about! NOT ONE. Not one of these glorious > > firework speeches goes over every nut and bolt of the MECHANICS of the > > new and improved “engine” of the world. Not one of them turns the > > crankshaft of the engine of the world which we actually live in or > > explains “why” it would turn. > > First, there is nothing wrong with speeches that are not about the > mechanics of things. It is amazing how easy the mechanics turn out to > be! Look at a simple problem like feeding the starving in Africa. > There is no economic problem in doing that. In fact it is easy. The > real problems are the security issues. And why do we have that?! Maya > my friend. There is a real need for enlightenment and that is not an > easy problem. How is it attacked? Many are trying. With sometimes only > simple charity. It is not easy. But the origin of the problem is > ultimately a confusion and the discussions you are belittling are an > attempt to raise consciousness. Do you realize what a lack of > consciousness could cost! In dollar terms? Has cost? > > Imaging going from Richard Nixon to Ronald Regan without having the > 60s intervene. Good chance we'd be all incinerated. All we needed was > two people whose consciousness was so low that their quest for power > engaged their personal survival instincts and th there experience of > being - one in DC and the other and Moscow and .... poof bang.... > > What was WW1 fought over? Do you understand the symbolism behind > "Blackwater" and do you lack the consciousness to see the harbringer > clear as it was in Mein Kampf? > > Working out the details is important but standing around yelling "We > have to do something now!" without considering carefully what to do is > wrong. You must look first to first principles and derive your way > out. The financial planning comes at the very end and its impact is > highly overrated. If we were conscious in the first world at the > highest level it would happen. The fact that we are conscious at all > has kept the dogs at bay.... at least somewhat... many have died but > the real holacaust has been prevented.. so far. > > Not one of them is even ATTACHED to > > > ANYTHING here on earth, where the day to day transactions occur, where > > the pistons go up and down, and the valve opens, because it has a > > reason to open and that reason makes sense. > > Ah your appeal to "making sense" and your reduction of that to > mechanism! Guess again my friend, Guess again. You do not understand > the degree to which we do not know why a piston goes up and down. You > are not even aware of the questions. > > None of your beautiful > > > speeches address the mechanics of the world , here on the ground. > > When you start describing that I will respect you, but until then, you > > are nothing more than a firework in the sky that fizzles to nothing > > down here. > > Wrong! Look at the declaration of independence. Where do you think the > idea of liberty came from. Do you really think that all men are > created equal? If so on what basis. Some are smart, some not. Some are > pretty, some not. So why have any equality at all? Do you think you > can base laws on money and mechanics... where you.... excuse the > term .... "live"......?!*%$ > > > > > Human nature is completely ignored. > > Outrageous claim. It is trans-cultural and I believe even trans- > special to some extent. Mamalian perhaps. Love drives the world much > more than money ever will. You are a fool if you believe otherwise. > > We don’t even know what it > > > is! But that does not matter, for in the speeches, the answer is so > > often “good for all” like a paper lever attached to the crankshaft of > > the human engine, it would tear off and flap in the wind before it > > moved ANYTHING. Everyone would be somehow “equalized“, and everyone > > would magically just turn the crankshaft and open the valve “because > > it is good for all?” > > No, but each is a person. Each is of value inherently because they > exist! And each is capable of good. > > And there again we see it, your fetish for mass. Paper does not have > the mass that real steel has. It is true. But try writing on an engine > with a wrench! > > Well, in twenty years, when nothing has > > > changed, > > Find me 20 years when nothing has changed in history. You, sir, are a > fool! > > and the engine still turns for “real” reasons and not due to > > > your paper levers, the speeches will still come, and you will not have > > addressed anything, so you will not have changed anything, but your > > speeches will still rain down but evaporate before they ever move a > > thing here on the ground. Logic and reason are “outdated” to the new > > world order speech writers. “Reality” is “old school” and quaint. > > Any engineer knows how to make things work and the first step is not > just to start bending metal. Sometimes it is years if ideation before > the action to take becomes clear. And there is a lot going on as we > speak! > > As a singe instance just consider the economic implications of trust. > No, even more limited. Just consider it on the value of a dollar. Just > consider the relationship between trust and money. > > Or, if you'd like, consider the paradigm of value. > > Or consider the motivation for a vow of poverty. > > > Just “how”, in every aspect, is each meal delivered to every person, > > three times a day, throughout the world? > > Ok, so you want an answer? Your question is so rhetorical it is > breathtaking. But the implication that thinking about things might not > lead to some change in how we spend our time.... > > Do you know what should be done? Inform us! Tell me what needs to be > done. My problem is that I don't think that that is the issue. We just > don't want to do it. And why we don't is the real problem. Its not a > mechanical one. Its not an economic one. There is plenty of wasted > time we could use. > > If you would just look at your own post and apply it to itself it > might help. > > Questions like these always > > > result in dead silence. > > Oh do they! Have you heard my silence?! Where? In my exclamation > marks? > > Silence? Now you are complaining about silence? > > To put it simply: We need to become more aware of the meaning of our > lives so that the source of good becomes more apparent culturally and > we focus on relieving each other's suffering and celebrating the life > we have together. > > But there is a problem. Becoming aware is not easy. Still progress is > being made and we are more liberal now that we were in the time when > you could legitimately crucify someone light him on fire and have a > party in your garden without completely deligitimizing your authority. > > That is until the next butterfly speech comes > > > down from above, and it always comes down, without fail, the answer > > flaps away, like butterflies do, trying to blow away any questions > > like THAT, but the answer never comes. > > Actually, my friend, it is not butterfly;s its dolphins. Dolphins and > whales. Don't forget them! Don't forget greenpeace. > > The problem is, they are not manly enough for you. Not like the boot > and the crop? Too feminine a symbol? But where does wisdom lie then? > > Have you ever looked at a butterfly? Have you ever really looked? > Their color is magnificent. They are truly beautiful. Just like > flowers and if you think all of that tending that mostly women do of > them is wrong, or stupid, or not mechanical you are just plain wrong. > > There is a lot going on... the environmental movement, hell, there are > all kinds of people trying their heart out to improve things... > > This is a newsgroup. People write here. It ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
