Who is this "we"? We are programmed to survive. Our tools include a healthy start, good genes, critical thinking and common sense. We may have to undo the ignorance or mischief of parents, teachers, professionals and cultural/religious mores but in adulthood we can seek information based on fact and a "second opinion".// What "wins" is the arbitrary power of governments to seize what they will unopposed under the guise of national interest or common welfare. I hardly think the legions of dead due to conquest or wars was/is comfort. Nor is the loss of opportunity and liberty solaced by the paper shufflers of the legislative, judicial, medical, educational, religious, social/caste, cultural etc. systems one we have chosen but rather must accept,endure or challenge.
On Sep 6, 11:49 pm, monkebus <[email protected]> wrote: > We always put a price on human life. Then we set that price with such > phrases as "collateral damage". Whether it is military, economic, > religious, ideological, social, medical, philosophical, or altruistic. > We place values based on it being someone's loss and our gain of a few > more pieces of gold or minutes on this earth. The survival and > creature comfort instinct always wins. > > On Sep 4, 7:31 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I suppose you are's right, we can't put a price on human life. But we > > all pay a price for healthcare, and that price is always quite high. > > Even for people who have no insurance, they pay the price in inability > > to secure employment that supplies it, > > > On Sep 4, 5:51 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > I have just read through this article and you are right it is > > > chillingly frightening. > > > > This bit here is an outright lie: > > > > 'Dr. Emanuel concedes that his plan appears to discriminate against > > > older people, but he explains: "Unlike allocation by sex or race, > > > allocation by age is not invidious discrimination. . . . Treating 65 > > > year olds differently because of stereotypes or falsehoods would be > > > ageist; treating them differently because they have already had more > > > life-years is not.' > > > > Treating anybody differantly based on age IS discrimination based up > > > on age, not matter how one dresses the logic up. > > > > The whole story sums up nicely that at least this bloke belives it IS > > > acceptible to put a price on human life, that I would call dispicable. > > > > On 4 Sep, 07:38, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > This is a very interesting article. I'm not suggesting we'll end up > > > > with something like this but it certainly makes for chilling reading. > > > > One major problem with current doctors(according to Dr. Emanuel) is > > > > the Hippocratic Oath. It's all very coldly logical and would be very > > > > effective in reducing costs I believe. If I got to keep the > > > > sweetheart health care our law makers get I'd probably vote for it > > > > myself. > > > > >http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405297020370660457437446328009... > > > > > How 'bout you? > > > > > dj- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
