*** chuckles @ "strategic spirituality" ***
On Sep 8, 10:14 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks Bill - things have been tough enough for me to really
> appreciate the other 'odd balls' in here as a beacon of hope. As a
> young boy I felt much the same about the USA (really), confusing it as
> the beacon city on the hill. I thought you guys were so democratic
> you wouldn't even get patriotic about sport! One lives and learns!
> Possibly the only thing I can claim to have been really good at is
> 'bad singing'. There has been a similar figure in my life - Howard,
> an old-style socialist who did sing-song nights at a pub I used to
> use.
> Our grandson has just started secondary school and was so impressed
> with his first day he wanted to go back! His Catholic primary school
> was about as good as we can manage. In the UK (with some reservations
> about prep schools), we seem to manage 'equality' quite well to this
> point and keep things personal and neighbourly enough. Things go sour
> after this point and I do conclude that the suppression of
> spirituality and communality after this stage is the key. I'm not
> sure I ever coped with this and the discovery of the way of the
> world. I've been unrooted all my adult life and even now miss the
> comradeship of disciplined service that replaced this, even though I
> know the experience was traumatic - the trauma being very much post
> the experience time itself. There is much we could be building on -
> my sense of this is almost marxist in terms of access to and control
> of the means of production - but I am only materialist in believing in
> this as a means to spiritual being. Fromm put this as 'to have or to
> be' - there are plenty of arguments, but it often seems little to do
> other than as a missionary or martyr - I'll stop before terms like
> 'strategic spirituality' start to come out of my management speak
> learning!
>
> On 8 Sep, 01:27, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I couldn’t stop thinking of Neil (and a few others here) while
> > listening to this wonderful story teller/man. No matter ones political
> > views, my guess is that we all would love to have had him as a
> > neighbor and a friend.
>
> > (It is a fairly long show…watch it when you have the time.)
>
> >http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/7/the_golden_voice_of_the_great- Hide
> >quoted text -
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