Words from those wiser than I:

"Listening not to me but to the LOGOS it is wise to agree that all
things are one." - Heraclitus (ca. 535–475 BCE):

"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while
bad people will find a way around the laws." -  Plato

"A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its  opponents
and making them see the light, but rather because its  opponents
eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is  familiar with
it." - Max Planck

"The most beautiful and profound emotion we can experience is the
sensation of the mystical. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who
can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead. To
know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself
as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, which our dull
faculties can comprehend only in their primitive forms - this
knowledge, this feeling, is at the center of true religion." - Albert
Einstein

“There is no salvation in becoming adapted to a world which is crazy.”
Henry Miller

"Stuff happens." - Donald H. Rumsfeld


On Sep 8, 10:14 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks Bill - things have been tough enough for me to really
> appreciate the other 'odd balls' in here as a beacon of hope.  As a
> young boy I felt much the same about the USA (really), confusing it as
> the beacon city on the hill.  I thought you guys were so democratic
> you wouldn't even get patriotic about sport!  One lives and learns!
> Possibly the only thing I can claim to have been really good at is
> 'bad singing'.  There has been a similar figure in my life - Howard,
> an old-style socialist who did sing-song nights at a pub I used to
> use.
> Our grandson has just started secondary school and was so impressed
> with his first day he wanted to go back!  His Catholic primary school
> was about as good as we can manage.  In the UK (with some reservations
> about prep schools), we seem to manage 'equality' quite well to this
> point and keep things personal and neighbourly enough.  Things go sour
> after this point and I do conclude that the suppression of
> spirituality and communality after this stage is the key.  I'm not
> sure I ever coped with this and the discovery of the way of the
> world.  I've been unrooted all my adult life and even now miss the
> comradeship of disciplined service that replaced this, even though I
> know the experience was traumatic - the trauma being very much post
> the experience time itself.  There is much we could be building on -
> my sense of this is almost marxist in terms of access to and control
> of the means of production - but I am only materialist in believing in
> this as a means to spiritual being.  Fromm put this as 'to have or to
> be' - there are plenty of arguments, but it often seems little to do
> other than as a missionary or martyr - I'll stop before terms like
> 'strategic spirituality' start to come out of my management speak
> learning!
>
> On 8 Sep, 01:27, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I couldn’t stop thinking of Neil (and a few others here) while
> > listening to this wonderful story teller/man. No matter ones political
> > views, my guess is that we all would love to have had him as a
> > neighbor and a friend.
>
> > (It is a fairly long show…watch it when you have the time.)
>
> >http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/7/the_golden_voice_of_the_great- Hide 
> >quoted text -
>
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