On 8 Sep, 18:55, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> Words from those wiser than I:
>
> "Listening not to me but to the LOGOS it is wise to agree that all
> things are one." - Heraclitus (ca. 535–475 BCE):
>
> "Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while
> bad people will find a way around the laws." - Plato
>
> "A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents
> and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents
> eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with
> it." - Max Planck
>
> "The most beautiful and profound emotion we can experience is the
> sensation of the mystical. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who
> can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead. To
> know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting itself
> as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, which our dull
> faculties can comprehend only in their primitive forms - this
> knowledge, this feeling, is at the center of true religion." - Albert
> Einstein
>
Just thought I'd add in another Einstein quote, here: "Science without
religion is lame; religion without science is blind."
> “There is no salvation in becoming adapted to a world which is crazy.”
> Henry Miller
>
> "Stuff happens." - Donald H. Rumsfeld
>
> On Sep 8, 10:14 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thanks Bill - things have been tough enough for me to really
> > appreciate the other 'odd balls' in here as a beacon of hope. As a
> > young boy I felt much the same about the USA (really), confusing it as
> > the beacon city on the hill. I thought you guys were so democratic
> > you wouldn't even get patriotic about sport! One lives and learns!
> > Possibly the only thing I can claim to have been really good at is
> > 'bad singing'. There has been a similar figure in my life - Howard,
> > an old-style socialist who did sing-song nights at a pub I used to
> > use.
> > Our grandson has just started secondary school and was so impressed
> > with his first day he wanted to go back! His Catholic primary school
> > was about as good as we can manage. In the UK (with some reservations
> > about prep schools), we seem to manage 'equality' quite well to this
> > point and keep things personal and neighbourly enough. Things go sour
> > after this point and I do conclude that the suppression of
> > spirituality and communality after this stage is the key. I'm not
> > sure I ever coped with this and the discovery of the way of the
> > world. I've been unrooted all my adult life and even now miss the
> > comradeship of disciplined service that replaced this, even though I
> > know the experience was traumatic - the trauma being very much post
> > the experience time itself. There is much we could be building on -
> > my sense of this is almost marxist in terms of access to and control
> > of the means of production - but I am only materialist in believing in
> > this as a means to spiritual being. Fromm put this as 'to have or to
> > be' - there are plenty of arguments, but it often seems little to do
> > other than as a missionary or martyr - I'll stop before terms like
> > 'strategic spirituality' start to come out of my management speak
> > learning!
>
> > On 8 Sep, 01:27, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I couldn’t stop thinking of Neil (and a few others here) while
> > > listening to this wonderful story teller/man. No matter ones political
> > > views, my guess is that we all would love to have had him as a
> > > neighbor and a friend.
>
> > > (It is a fairly long show…watch it when you have the time.)
>
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