Ohh what sort of basic magic?
On 9 Sep, 19:26, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> Me to and it does Francis
> Next time we see each other remind me to loan you one of my books called
> basic magic,, put some new insights to prayer.
> Allan
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> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 5:16 PM, frantheman <[email protected]>wrote:
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> > I'd be storming heaven with continuing rosaries for a successful
> > outcome for you Neil - now, if only I could start believing that
> > prayer works ...
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> > Francis
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> > On 9 Sep., 16:09, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I got news of an interview for a job in Dubai today - it's next
> > > Monday. The job's being run by my old university. Good pay, free
> > > accommodation and guaranteed sun and sobriety - an excellent retreat
> > > to finish my books as long as the air conditioning holds out! I'll be
> > > out in the sticks (not that are any) about an hour from the challenge
> > > of cold lager and an eon from the recession. Ahmadenadinejad will be
> > > within grenade tossing distance across the Straights Of Homuz, so I
> > > may adjust my view of the 6th Fleet and have to stop calling Americans
> > > my colonial cousins! You may be right that we have a 'special
> > > relationship' Orn. One hopes the monks keep chanting until 3 p.m.
> > > 14.9.09 (BST). The work will probably encompass India too. Fingers
> > > crossed, touching the wood, the scientist in me is shouting!
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> > > On 9 Sep, 12:13, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > On 8 Sep, 18:55, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > Words from those wiser than I:
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> > > > > "Listening not to me but to the LOGOS it is wise to agree that all
> > > > > things are one." - Heraclitus (ca. 535–475 BCE):
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> > > > > "Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while
> > > > > bad people will find a way around the laws." - Plato
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> > > > > "A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents
> > > > > and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents
> > > > > eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with
> > > > > it." - Max Planck
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> > > > > "The most beautiful and profound emotion we can experience is the
> > > > > sensation of the mystical. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who
> > > > > can no longer wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead. To
> > > > > know that what is impenetrable to us really exists, manifesting
> > itself
> > > > > as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, which our dull
> > > > > faculties can comprehend only in their primitive forms - this
> > > > > knowledge, this feeling, is at the center of true religion." - Albert
> > > > > Einstein
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> > > > Just thought I'd add in another Einstein quote, here: "Science without
> > > > religion is lame; religion without science is blind."
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> > > > > “There is no salvation in becoming adapted to a world which is
> > crazy.”
> > > > > Henry Miller
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> > > > > "Stuff happens." - Donald H. Rumsfeld
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> > > > > On Sep 8, 10:14 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > Thanks Bill - things have been tough enough for me to really
> > > > > > appreciate the other 'odd balls' in here as a beacon of hope. As a
> > > > > > young boy I felt much the same about the USA (really), confusing it
> > as
> > > > > > the beacon city on the hill. I thought you guys were so democratic
> > > > > > you wouldn't even get patriotic about sport! One lives and learns!
> > > > > > Possibly the only thing I can claim to have been really good at is
> > > > > > 'bad singing'. There has been a similar figure in my life -
> > Howard,
> > > > > > an old-style socialist who did sing-song nights at a pub I used to
> > > > > > use.
> > > > > > Our grandson has just started secondary school and was so impressed
> > > > > > with his first day he wanted to go back! His Catholic primary
> > school
> > > > > > was about as good as we can manage. In the UK (with some
> > reservations
> > > > > > about prep schools), we seem to manage 'equality' quite well to
> > this
> > > > > > point and keep things personal and neighbourly enough. Things go
> > sour
> > > > > > after this point and I do conclude that the suppression of
> > > > > > spirituality and communality after this stage is the key. I'm not
> > > > > > sure I ever coped with this and the discovery of the way of the
> > > > > > world. I've been unrooted all my adult life and even now miss the
> > > > > > comradeship of disciplined service that replaced this, even though
> > I
> > > > > > know the experience was traumatic - the trauma being very much post
> > > > > > the experience time itself. There is much we could be building on
> > -
> > > > > > my sense of this is almost marxist in terms of access to and
> > control
> > > > > > of the means of production - but I am only materialist in believing
> > in
> > > > > > this as a means to spiritual being. Fromm put this as 'to have or
> > to
> > > > > > be' - there are plenty of arguments, but it often seems little to
> > do
> > > > > > other than as a missionary or martyr - I'll stop before terms like
> > > > > > 'strategic spirituality' start to come out of my management speak
> > > > > > learning!
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> > > > > > On 8 Sep, 01:27, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > I couldn’t stop thinking of Neil (and a few others here) while
> > > > > > > listening to this wonderful story teller/man. No matter ones
> > political
> > > > > > > views, my guess is that we all would love to have had him as a
> > > > > > > neighbor and a friend.
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> > > > > > > (It is a fairly long show…watch it when you have the time.)
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> >http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/7/the_golden_voice_of_the_great-Hi...
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