What I like about cats is that, unlike dogs, they have not yet been
fully domesticated.  Cats make up their own minds on how they will run
your household.  We have three, and when they show affection--which
they frequently do--we know that it's real, and not just adulation for
the alpha male and female in the pack.

On Sep 10, 7:16 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> I said cats couldn't be trained to do anything USEFUL.  If anyone has
> proof otherwise I'd be happy to be proved wrong.  Say, a sled cat or
> cat retriever.  Maybe a picture of a cat with one of those brandy
> barrels under his chin.  Or a cadaver cat or a drug sniffer cat etc.,
> etc.  Doing flips and flushing a toilet is amusing but not exactly
> useful.
>
> dj
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:20 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I think the untrainable cat rumor is so cat owners will not have to pay for
> > owning cats like dog owners have to.. and take their cats out on leashes for
> > walks..
> > I think I will end stating my opinion there even though it is not the end of
> > my opinion I will let your imagination take it to the extreme,,
> > Allan
>
> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:46 PM, [email protected]
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> I witnessed a strange thing last week.  Some bloke on some TV news
> >> program or other declareing that cats can not be trained.
>
> >> Right after an ad brake.  One of the ads was for a cat food, and
> >> featured a cat.  Ohh that's strange, thought I, that looked just like
> >> a trained cat to me!
>
> >> On 9 Sep, 22:23, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > "Tell him about the twinky."
>
> >> > Dogs at least can be trained to be useful.  I have as yet seen nothing
> >> > in cats that is remotely useful in anyway.  Indeed, there is ample
> >> > evidence that they are, in fact, evil.  Exhibit one:
>
> >> >http://www.funnyjunk.com/youtube/9720/Evil+Kitty+song/
>
> >> > dj
>
> >> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]>
> >> > wrote:
>
> >> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3ZOKDmorj0
>
> >> > > On Sep 9, 10:26 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > >> This question has been asked by all sides.  Cats or dog?
>
> >> > >> Cat lovers would tell you that dogs are slaves to their masters
> >> > >> whilst
> >> > >> dog lovers will tell you, no they are lovingly loyal whilst cats are
> >> > >> aloof and selfish.
>
> >> > >> Which do you prefer cats or dogs?  Or perhaps like me you like both?
>
> >> > >> Chris, in another thread mentioned the old Science vs Faith thing
> >> > >> agian.
>
> >> > >> Like cats and dogs I see merit and value in both of them.
>
> >> > >> Science is good, it lets us understand the world around us, the
> >> > >> universe, our place in it, how it all works.  However I belive there
> >> > >> are questions that science simply cannot answer, and so I turn to
> >> > >> religious faith.
>
> >> > >> Religion is also good, it lets us understand our place in the world,
> >> > >> it answers the all important why question.
>
> >> > >> Now I'm sure that perhaps one or two of you may be thinking, no Lee
> >> > >> you are wrong there are no questions that science cannot one day
> >> > >> answer, well isn't that an article of faith in itself I wonder?
>
> >> > >> Here's my mantra again 'We are all differant, the whole world over'.
> >> > >> These differances are becoming increaseingly important to me, along
> >> > >> with what I have termed 'The right to be', now they seem to be at the
> >> > >> core of a slowley(ahhh ever-so-slowly) emerging philosophy of mine.
>
> >> > >> Based on the golden rule which I shall render here as 'treat others
> >> > >> as
> >> > >> you would wish to be treated', I think that many people would agree
> >> > >> with such a tenant conciously or not?
>
> >> > >> Taking that further then we can see that a logical extention of the
> >> > >> golden rule is 'I will live my life as I see fit, within the confines
> >> > >> of the law of the land'.  Again I don't think many would like to
> >> > >> disagree with such a thought?
>
> >> > >> Taking that further still we can get 'I will suffer no attempt by
> >> > >> others to enforce me to lead a life not in keeping with the life I
> >> > >> wish to lead'.  This then must lead us to the conclusion that if I
> >> > >> wish to live by these tenants then I must extend the same to
> >> > >> everybody
> >> > >> else, the golden rule ensures this.
>
> >> > >> This in a nutshell is 'the right to be'.
>
> >> > >> Now bearing that in mind we can get a glimpse into why differances
> >> > >> are
> >> > >> so important to me.  Yes I can point at somebody and say well I don't
> >> > >> agree with your morality, but as long as it does not lead you into
> >> > >> brakeing the law of the land, then I can do nothing to stop you
> >> > >> leading the kind of life you wish to, nor should I attempt to do so.
>
> >> > >> These differances then become important because we need to be able to
> >> > >> live next to each other, I need to understand how you are differant
> >> > >> to
> >> > >> me, so that I do not mistakingly put upon you 'intent' or 'motive'
> >> > >> that is just not there, thus causeing misunderstanding and illwill.
> >> > >> Our differances matter so that we can learn to live side by side with
> >> > >> the minimun amount of conflict.
>
> >> > >> So cats or dogs, shit man why not both?- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> > - Show quoted text -
>
> > --
> > (
> >  )
> > I_D Allan
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