Ahhhh or is it?  I read somewhere just last week, that cats do not
really purr, they have evolved such a thing to gain attention from us
humans.

As to making up their own minds well, have you never heard of
toxoplasma gondii?

On 11 Sep, 01:36, RichardM <[email protected]> wrote:
> What I like about cats is that, unlike dogs, they have not yet been
> fully domesticated.  Cats make up their own minds on how they will run
> your household.  We have three, and when they show affection--which
> they frequently do--we know that it's real, and not just adulation for
> the alpha male and female in the pack.
>
> On Sep 10, 7:16 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I said cats couldn't be trained to do anything USEFUL.  If anyone has
> > proof otherwise I'd be happy to be proved wrong.  Say, a sled cat or
> > cat retriever.  Maybe a picture of a cat with one of those brandy
> > barrels under his chin.  Or a cadaver cat or a drug sniffer cat etc.,
> > etc.  Doing flips and flushing a toilet is amusing but not exactly
> > useful.
>
> > dj
>
> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:20 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I think the untrainable cat rumor is so cat owners will not have to pay 
> > > for
> > > owning cats like dog owners have to.. and take their cats out on leashes 
> > > for
> > > walks..
> > > I think I will end stating my opinion there even though it is not the end 
> > > of
> > > my opinion I will let your imagination take it to the extreme,,
> > > Allan
>
> > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:46 PM, [email protected]
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > >> I witnessed a strange thing last week.  Some bloke on some TV news
> > >> program or other declareing that cats can not be trained.
>
> > >> Right after an ad brake.  One of the ads was for a cat food, and
> > >> featured a cat.  Ohh that's strange, thought I, that looked just like
> > >> a trained cat to me!
>
> > >> On 9 Sep, 22:23, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > "Tell him about the twinky."
>
> > >> > Dogs at least can be trained to be useful.  I have as yet seen nothing
> > >> > in cats that is remotely useful in anyway.  Indeed, there is ample
> > >> > evidence that they are, in fact, evil.  Exhibit one:
>
> > >> >http://www.funnyjunk.com/youtube/9720/Evil+Kitty+song/
>
> > >> > dj
>
> > >> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]>
> > >> > wrote:
>
> > >> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3ZOKDmorj0
>
> > >> > > On Sep 9, 10:26 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > >> This question has been asked by all sides.  Cats or dog?
>
> > >> > >> Cat lovers would tell you that dogs are slaves to their masters
> > >> > >> whilst
> > >> > >> dog lovers will tell you, no they are lovingly loyal whilst cats are
> > >> > >> aloof and selfish.
>
> > >> > >> Which do you prefer cats or dogs?  Or perhaps like me you like both?
>
> > >> > >> Chris, in another thread mentioned the old Science vs Faith thing
> > >> > >> agian.
>
> > >> > >> Like cats and dogs I see merit and value in both of them.
>
> > >> > >> Science is good, it lets us understand the world around us, the
> > >> > >> universe, our place in it, how it all works.  However I belive there
> > >> > >> are questions that science simply cannot answer, and so I turn to
> > >> > >> religious faith.
>
> > >> > >> Religion is also good, it lets us understand our place in the world,
> > >> > >> it answers the all important why question.
>
> > >> > >> Now I'm sure that perhaps one or two of you may be thinking, no Lee
> > >> > >> you are wrong there are no questions that science cannot one day
> > >> > >> answer, well isn't that an article of faith in itself I wonder?
>
> > >> > >> Here's my mantra again 'We are all differant, the whole world over'.
> > >> > >> These differances are becoming increaseingly important to me, along
> > >> > >> with what I have termed 'The right to be', now they seem to be at 
> > >> > >> the
> > >> > >> core of a slowley(ahhh ever-so-slowly) emerging philosophy of mine.
>
> > >> > >> Based on the golden rule which I shall render here as 'treat others
> > >> > >> as
> > >> > >> you would wish to be treated', I think that many people would agree
> > >> > >> with such a tenant conciously or not?
>
> > >> > >> Taking that further then we can see that a logical extention of the
> > >> > >> golden rule is 'I will live my life as I see fit, within the 
> > >> > >> confines
> > >> > >> of the law of the land'.  Again I don't think many would like to
> > >> > >> disagree with such a thought?
>
> > >> > >> Taking that further still we can get 'I will suffer no attempt by
> > >> > >> others to enforce me to lead a life not in keeping with the life I
> > >> > >> wish to lead'.  This then must lead us to the conclusion that if I
> > >> > >> wish to live by these tenants then I must extend the same to
> > >> > >> everybody
> > >> > >> else, the golden rule ensures this.
>
> > >> > >> This in a nutshell is 'the right to be'.
>
> > >> > >> Now bearing that in mind we can get a glimpse into why differances
> > >> > >> are
> > >> > >> so important to me.  Yes I can point at somebody and say well I 
> > >> > >> don't
> > >> > >> agree with your morality, but as long as it does not lead you into
> > >> > >> brakeing the law of the land, then I can do nothing to stop you
> > >> > >> leading the kind of life you wish to, nor should I attempt to do so.
>
> > >> > >> These differances then become important because we need to be able 
> > >> > >> to
> > >> > >> live next to each other, I need to understand how you are differant
> > >> > >> to
> > >> > >> me, so that I do not mistakingly put upon you 'intent' or 'motive'
> > >> > >> that is just not there, thus causeing misunderstanding and illwill.
> > >> > >> Our differances matter so that we can learn to live side by side 
> > >> > >> with
> > >> > >> the minimun amount of conflict.
>
> > >> > >> So cats or dogs, shit man why not both?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > --
> > > (
> > >  )
> > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
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