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On Sep 12, 3:35 pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
> The three bears? The three little pigs? :-)
>
> Francis
>
> On 12 Sep., 20:20, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Thanks, Orn, I was hoping others would bring up other triunes that
> > would apply. Vam may have already given us some from the Eastern
> > traditions.
>
> > On Sep 12, 12:11 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > What Molly said…and, since you are apparently new to ME, such notions
> > > of triunes appear to be innate within us rather than the dogma of one
> > > theology and arise within many cultures and epochs, mostly within
> > > philosophy and ontology. One simple example can be found in Plotinus:
>
> > > “Plotinus is considered to be the founder of Neoplatonism. Taking his
> > > lead from his reading of Plato, Plotinus developed a complex spiritual
> > > cosmology involving three foundational elements: the One, the
> > > Intelligence, and the Soul. It is from the productive unity of these
> > > three Beings that all existence emanates, according to Plotinus. The
> > > principal of emanation is not simply causal, but also contemplative.
> > > In his system, Plotinus raises intellectual contemplation to the
> > > status of a productive principle; and it is by virtue of contemplation
> > > that all existents are said to be united as a single, all-pervasive
> > > reality. In this sense, Plotinus is not a strict pantheist, yet his
> > > system does not permit the notion of creatio ex nihilo (creation out
> > > of nothingness). In addition to his cosmology, Plotinus also developed
> > > a unique theory of sense-perception and knowledge, based on the idea
> > > that the mind plays an active role in shaping or ordering the objects
> > > of its perception, rather than passively receiving the data of sense
> > > experience (in this sense, Plotinus may be said to have anticipated
> > > the phenomenological theories of Husserl). ….”
>
> > > For more, continue reading at:http://www.iep.utm.edu/plotinus/
>
> > > On Sep 12, 7:32 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > my view, and thanks for asking, is that while nothing is external to
> > > > god, god is also an essential part of who I am. The paradox here, is
> > > > that I am both differentiated (individual), and undifferentiated
> > > > (god). I am god (Father), myself (Son), and my experience (Holy
> > > > Spirit), expressed in states and stages and dimensions of
> > > > consciousness.
>
> > > > On Sep 11, 9:45 am, Simon Ewins <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > 2009/9/11 Molly Brogan <[email protected]>:
>
> > > > > > there is nothing external to god
>
> > > > > It now appears that there are two gods, then. Yours, which is not
> > > > > accountable to any standards apart from itself and Pat's which is
> > > > > accountable to Logic (and from there to a lot of other things by
> > > > > necessity).
>
> > > > > Or are you adopting a panentheistic position vis a vis your god?
>
> > > > > As I understand pantheism and panentheism...
>
> > > > > It is most accurate is to say that pantheists claim that god is IN
> > > > > everything.
>
> > > > > The distinction is needed because of panentheism which declares that
> > > > > everything is a PART of god.
>
> > > > > A pantheist would say that god is in a rock while a panentheist would
> > > > > say that the rock is a part of god, in a way that could be viewed as
> > > > > comparable to the rock being to god what our DNA (or a molecule) is to
> > > > > us.
>
> > > > > Panentheism's position is that it is the elemental aspects of the
> > > > > universe that comprise god -- as opposed to pantheism which sees god
> > > > > as permeating those elements.
>
> > > > > In a panentheistic view I suppose that Logic, Morality, etcetera is a
> > > > > PART of God. Is this close to your view?- Hide quoted text -
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