“…What then do you mean?” – lee [re: morality] I use the term in many different ways lee. In my post I pointed at a few…one of which is the common colloquial usage having to do with meme imposed beliefs as well as that which is claimed to be revelatory. I also pointed to a pragmatic type of morality, one that is used to maintain survival of human life. I also suggest, as the ancients have discussed ad nauseum, another and more expansive and innate ethos…more of a virtue, that can be found if looked for.
On Sep 21, 8:20 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > I sense that we use the word differantly then OM. > > When I say morality I mean mostly ones personal opinion of what is > right and what is wrong. What then do you mean? > > On 21 Sep, 16:06, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > “…Yet I can use the word capricious (sic.), I have a sense of > > morality, why is > > this I wonder?...” – lee > > > For most, what is called a ‘sense of morality’ is but something > > someone else has said is right/wrong…this or some ‘code’ that results > > from personal passions/needs. When it come to a true recognition of > > any specific innate ‘sense of morality’ or virtue, very few have > > access to this. > > > On Sep 21, 5:03 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > Oh yes there are links between dyslexcia and a whole host of other > > > 'skills' . It may be that my areguments are purly semantic Pat, it > > > may well be that is the case. > > > > Heh still on this anti free will kick huh? > > > > I guess even though you make some interesting arguments for your case > > > I'll never be able to agree with you, perhaps for the reason you > > > suggest, I think though mostly because I simply cannot agree with what > > > it means for us if you are indeed correct. > > > > If you are right then I'll never agree with you, and what does that > > > matter as that must be my lot in life, that is how the One has made me > > > to be I can't even choose to submit, nor realise that I already have. > > > > Yet you see where that leaves us? No blame nor merit can be attached > > > to anything that we do, nothing we do matters as we have no control > > > over it, there is no 'I' to make any desicion, all crimes are not > > > really crimes they are just the capriciouse side of the one. > > > > Yet I can use the word capriciouse, I have a sense of morality, why is > > > this I wonder? When I have no choice at all, what use is the > > > knowledge of good and evil? No sir you cannot be correct and even if > > > you are, I'll never admit to such, now I wonder if that is my free > > > choice or just the way that the One intends me to be! > > > > On 21 Sep, 12:36, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 16 Sep, 13:36, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > David Beckham in fact trained very hard and put in an imensse amount > > > > > of practice kicking a ball so that it dropped exactly where he wanted > > > > > it to. Of course an early interest in a subject means that you start > > > > > the practice earlyer. > > > > > > There is something in biological triats that may make the performing > > > > > of some actions easier, but this I would say is not talent, but > > > > > biological advantage. > > > > > As far as musical talent goes, though, have a read of this: > > > > >http://www.world-science.net/exclusives/080429_music-genes.htm > > > > > It seems that there's a connection between dyslexia and musical > > > > aptitude. But, is the difference between 'talent' and 'biological > > > > advantage' just a semantic one? Funy how we seem to have no problem > > > > admitting to being coded, yet some still persist in thinking that we > > > > can escape the coding of space-time itself (by the mystical power of > > > > 'free will'). I reckon it's a gene that prevents people from seeing > > > > the forest because of the copper in the chlorophyll in the leaves on > > > > the trees. ;-) > > > > > > On 16 Sep, 12:58, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On 16 Sep, 12:22, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Well does it? > > > > > > > > I say no, practice makes pefect, but what do you think? > > > > > > > Practice makes perfect but, how long does it take to train a > > > > > > chimpanzee to write Shakespeare? To date, the only readable thing > > > > > > any > > > > > > chimp has ever typed was the word 'Jamiroquai' (thus the name for > > > > > > Jay > > > > > > Kay's band), which is completely meaningless. I had, for a long > > > > > > time, > > > > > > been scared to attempt to play a guitar because, I felt, it took so > > > > > > much time to learn it. But, after having one for about 3 weeks, I > > > > > > had > > > > > > already developed one little ballad. But, of course, growing up > > > > > > with > > > > > > a father who had a degree in music and a mother 'talented enough' to > > > > > > teach herself voice and keyboards, I reckon that I'd inherited > > > > > > something that made it a little easier for me to play music than it > > > > > > would have been had I not had that genetic and environmental > > > > > > kickstart, as it were. If talent exists, then it is, most likely, a > > > > > > heritable trait, but there can be talents for many things. For > > > > > > example, David Beckham has a natural talent for kicking a football > > > > > > pretty accurately and, of course, that talent was noticed and > > > > > > further > > > > > > developed. I doubt that I would have the same skill even if I had > > > > > > been given the exact same 'development', as the underlying talent > > > > > > isn't as great. Which is why, when I play footy, I'm either a > > > > > > defender or, preferably, a goalkeeper, as I have a 'talent' for > > > > > > getting myself in the way of others. This has even been evidenced > > > > > > in > > > > > > some of the things I write. ;-)- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
