enjoy it while you can!  and welcome back.  look forward to your alice
in wonderland comments.

On Sep 23, 2:08 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> cI know they are not going to make me a junkie in a week,, but it is weird
> laying flat on back i see myself floating above the floor (wall) with my
> feet in a box watching the TV on the wall (Ceiling)  I see enough weird
> stuff with out having them drug induced.
> Allan
>
> (that hospital was weird)
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:45 PM, frantheman 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Good to hear that you're on the way back to functionality, Allan.
>
> > Pain is a weird thing - it's very subjective. Pain-management experts
> > suggest working with diaries and grading things on scales from one to
> > ten. Professionally, I haven't found them particularly helpful. Many
> > doctors don't take pain seriously, especially when they've caused it
> > themselves! In terms of acute pain, like the post-op healing situation
> > you're in, where it's clear that it is a temporary phenomenon, one of
> > the commonest mistakes is to give insufficient analgesics. If you have
> > to take opioids, then it's crazy not to take enough to get rid of the
> > pain. In a professionally managed environment, you're not going to
> > turn into a junkie in a week - although many physicians seem to
> > inordinately afraid of this (while frequently dispensing prescriptions
> > for sleeping-pills as if they were smarties).
>
> > There also needs to be a lot more work done on possible potentizing
> > effects of anticholinergic substances such as amitriptyline or most
> > neuroleptics in low doses on the efficacy of analgetics, thus allowing
> > lower dosages of opioids.
>
> > Francis
>
> > On 23 Sep., 12:21, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Thank you, I am hoping there will be no more operation, 5 knee operation
> > are
> > > enough for one life time
> > > Allan
>
> > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:22 AM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > It's good to hear you're doing well.  Keep it up.
>
> > > > dj
>
> > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:29 PM, iam deheretic <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Yes pain killers.pain killers and more pain stiller
> > > > > sleep I can only semi do   pain killers needed ... actually am doing
> > > > better
> > > > > thinking is beginning to clear so that is good I think.  found out
> > that
> > > > that
> > > > > surgery is considered to be the most painful they do. they normally
> > use
> > > > an
> > > > > epidermal in the spine for pain but it failed this time so I was on
> > and
> > > > off
> > > > > morphine for pain over the next five days finally I got the
> > medication
> > > > > change and the pain started to be able to be controlled.  I know why
> > I
> > > > > stayed a way from drugs... a good reminder.
> > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 2:14 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > >> Good news! Take it easy- sleep- soup and soothing music!
>
> > > > >> On Sep 22, 6:22 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >> > It was in the local hospital in zoetermeer..  but after 7 day of
> > hell
> > > > >> > and
> > > > >> > pain.. I have finally made it back home.. that is great..  thankds
> > for
> > > > >> > every
> > > > >> > ones thoughts as my head is still groogy
> > > > >> > Allan
>
> > > > >> > p 16, 2009 at 12:04 PM, [email protected]
> > > > >> > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > > >> > > Ohh good luck mate, which hospital?
>
> > > > >> > > On 16 Sep, 01:13, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >> > > > Good luck, Allan, and speedy recovery!
>
> > > > >> > > > On Sep 15, 1:19 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > >> > > > > No I am not talking about drugs..
>
> > > > >> > > > > Tomorrow I have to be in the hospital a 10am, not the first
> > knee
> > > > >> > > replacement
> > > > >> > > > > but the 2nd one,, and it is scaring the hades out of me...
> > > > >> > > > > Allan
>
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