Sign me up for the Scientism Orn - do we all get a magnetic resonance
machine?  I note these opportunists have neglected the very wide body
of literature you have indicated over the last couple of years.  I
remember reading a learned article that stated little attention had
been paid to 'management learning' - I was reading this whilst a
member of a centre for the study of 'management learning' formed some
10 years before.  It is, of course, common practice to state an area
is unresearched.  There is generally more in a Gabbyesce one-liner
than this article.  I have learned much more from you and others in
here than this kind of pretended science could ever offer.  One should
not, old chap, merely offer up the worst the opposition can muster!
I rather liked the Alan Wallace stuff - what I felt I wanted was a
joint commentary on what this kind of reasoning does for us - though
preferably one that doesn't swamp my emails as the Witters one I
looked at recently after its introduction here.  I was moved - partly
in the relief of 'listening' to another doing some kind of justice to
argument in principle accessible to us all.  It was Gabby who pointed
me to an article by Mary Midgely available in a list I posted as
available free at Philosophy Now - this ends by saying the 'least
worst' position is 'listening' to a kind of inner committee rather
than one-dimensional Rationality (perhaps a strange way to come to a
'first reading'!) - one can glean a little from almost anything,
including this article.  A real scientific approach should not neglect
experience in a very general sense, even if its purpose is to expose
problems in that experience or expose it as just plain wrong.  I
suspect there is a great deal of scientific evidence for a religious
position open to evidence - one does not have to fall for scientism in
adopting this, or fall for tradition, revelation, or deny 'messages'
we can experience in a religious sense - questioning remains (as
Wallace points out very well).

Apparently some way from anything we might discuss on this, is the
Vanessa George case in the UK.  This woman, now known to be a very
serious child abuser, appeared happy and caring to all around her for
over ten years.  Today she is being sentence for abuse so horrible the
news is shying away from telling us what it was.  Parents with kids at
the nursery at which she worked now live not knowing whether their
children have been abused.  We can be very wrong in our assessments of
people, science, religion and so on.  This should not stop us trying
to find better positions and some way to incorporate all evidence in
what we can do in introspection and its translation in mutual
understanding.  There is much worse than scientific pedantry to cope
with!

On 1 Oct, 07:22, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> ...for those interested in Scientism.
>
> http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.00...
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