Wonderful, that story came right from the soul! But you seem somewhat
focussed on the sexual aspects of future creations, whatever is in the
future can impossible be much worse than a hooker in a cheap motel,
keep that in mind. And do not forget that S. Hawking gambled about the
existence and creation of our universe, for a subscription on the
private eye and the playmate (important to notice: he won). So science
is showing some good developments, in our benefits.

Matthijs

Matthijs
On 1 okt, 15:39, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have been something of an addict over the years too Matt.  I am
> highly critical of the science and the soap opera morality and wish we
> could try something less obviously edifying and 'American'.  'We like
> Star Trek, but why are there no Arabs in it?' asks the Saudi.
> 'Because it's set in the future', replies President Bush (pick from
> two equally evil).  Janeway has a few genocides to account for.  Warp
> travel is essentially flawed - the Hawking radiation would get us.
> Still, it whiles away the hours!  Q could be George W playing with his
> military toys and foreign policy!
>
> My own story concerns the birth of relativity-travel (we age only 30
> years in travelling to the 'edge of the universe', but it ages 15
> billion years as we 'get there'), new genetic form including GROCS
> that render lying a poor strategy and give pleasure and learning
> beyond current imagination and a Cathar sect determined to stop
> relativity-travel in order to prevent any human future so that there
> can be a general return to the preferable nothingness.  Here lies the
> opportunity for fresh ethical debates - what would the love between
> man and woman be when procreation was robotised, sexual pleasure as
> nothing compared with GROCS-based intensity, Machiavellian plotting
> doomed to pathetic failure (it is now isn't it?) because learning is
> so easily shared, dishonesty so difficult to maintain and over-
> population 'cured' by two world wars and humanity (such as it might
> become with genetic control) not confined to a time relative only to
> the heat death of the sun and our own destruction of the planet?
>
> GROCS is a genetic-relational open communication system (my thanks to
> Orn for introduction to grok).  I will never finish the writing if I
> attempt to explain all.  Chris and I are returning to Moonbase Three
> after a year mining new life from a Jupiter moon - a somewhat mushroom-
> enlivened period as we had to work GROCS-free though strange gravity
> and zero gravity, playing adolescent games with early 21st century
> porn and women-fancying (to better understand the mentality that had
> led to WW3 and 4), though we already live lives without this on what
> is left of Earth.  Harem dreams are as nothing once one can GROCS,
> reproductive fetish (what woman in this new world would want the pain
> and time-consumption of pregnancy) as nothing when one can build new
> life that can travel the universe, pleasure so intense and varied one
> can listen to Beethoven's 9th as a connoisseur might, learn as the
> best can ... one might boldly go beyond the replacement of the horse
> by Enterprise or Voyager.
>
> On 30 Sep, 12:34, Matthijs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I love the series, it gives me fresh ideas. And has good moral and
> > ethic debates. I like the Q episodes.  
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pZSw7ojvw8&feature=related
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