I'm rather hoping to write something that will sell Matt.  I have
never experienced hookers in cheap hotels or elsewhere other than in
the course of research.  Once, In Amsterdam, stuck with a bloke I
didn't like much, I wandered through the red light district with him
as he had asked to see it.  I'm probably something of a prude really
and a cop at the time - showing a writer something of the sex and
drugs scene as a favour.  The guy was a bit too right wing for me and
we'd only managed a few polite exchanges.  We passed a few windows and
some of the guys pimping shows (I've never seen one, despite a lot of
brothel creeping police work).  After 10 minutes he said thanks, went
to a canal bridge and threw up.  Somehow this made him much more
worthwhile and we went to a coffee shop for a few brews and a tope.
He got a lot out of me after that.  A world in which none of this is
'necessary' interests me.

On 2 Oct, 11:36, Matthijs <[email protected]> wrote:
> Wonderful, that story came right from the soul! But you seem somewhat
> focussed on the sexual aspects of future creations, whatever is in the
> future can impossible be much worse than a hooker in a cheap motel,
> keep that in mind. And do not forget that S. Hawking gambled about the
> existence and creation of our universe, for a subscription on the
> private eye and the playmate (important to notice: he won). So science
> is showing some good developments, in our benefits.
>
> Matthijs
>
> Matthijs
> On 1 okt, 15:39, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I have been something of an addict over the years too Matt.  I am
> > highly critical of the science and the soap opera morality and wish we
> > could try something less obviously edifying and 'American'.  'We like
> > Star Trek, but why are there no Arabs in it?' asks the Saudi.
> > 'Because it's set in the future', replies President Bush (pick from
> > two equally evil).  Janeway has a few genocides to account for.  Warp
> > travel is essentially flawed - the Hawking radiation would get us.
> > Still, it whiles away the hours!  Q could be George W playing with his
> > military toys and foreign policy!
>
> > My own story concerns the birth of relativity-travel (we age only 30
> > years in travelling to the 'edge of the universe', but it ages 15
> > billion years as we 'get there'), new genetic form including GROCS
> > that render lying a poor strategy and give pleasure and learning
> > beyond current imagination and a Cathar sect determined to stop
> > relativity-travel in order to prevent any human future so that there
> > can be a general return to the preferable nothingness.  Here lies the
> > opportunity for fresh ethical debates - what would the love between
> > man and woman be when procreation was robotised, sexual pleasure as
> > nothing compared with GROCS-based intensity, Machiavellian plotting
> > doomed to pathetic failure (it is now isn't it?) because learning is
> > so easily shared, dishonesty so difficult to maintain and over-
> > population 'cured' by two world wars and humanity (such as it might
> > become with genetic control) not confined to a time relative only to
> > the heat death of the sun and our own destruction of the planet?
>
> > GROCS is a genetic-relational open communication system (my thanks to
> > Orn for introduction to grok).  I will never finish the writing if I
> > attempt to explain all.  Chris and I are returning to Moonbase Three
> > after a year mining new life from a Jupiter moon - a somewhat mushroom-
> > enlivened period as we had to work GROCS-free though strange gravity
> > and zero gravity, playing adolescent games with early 21st century
> > porn and women-fancying (to better understand the mentality that had
> > led to WW3 and 4), though we already live lives without this on what
> > is left of Earth.  Harem dreams are as nothing once one can GROCS,
> > reproductive fetish (what woman in this new world would want the pain
> > and time-consumption of pregnancy) as nothing when one can build new
> > life that can travel the universe, pleasure so intense and varied one
> > can listen to Beethoven's 9th as a connoisseur might, learn as the
> > best can ... one might boldly go beyond the replacement of the horse
> > by Enterprise or Voyager.
>
> > On 30 Sep, 12:34, Matthijs <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I love the series, it gives me fresh ideas. And has good moral and
> > > ethic debates. I like the Q episodes.  
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pZSw7ojvw8&feature=related
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