I sometimes wonder whether it is such fears that have kept me 'pure' rather than morality Matt. I have no problem with sex for money transactions in principle, much as I have no problem with a woman wearing the veil because she really wants to uninfluenced by puerile tradition. The practical exploitation and squalor don't suit me though. I am not technically an idealist, but do think the world could get a lot better and we can change it. Opinion from those who think we can't is interesting - one can at least probe a bit on how the propaganda works. No problems once we are Q Matt!
On 3 Oct, 12:35, Matthijs <[email protected]> wrote: > You believe that the world one day will/can be without the oldest > profession. That makes you a person with ideals, you don't see that > much these days. We both agree that it must get better, for the sake > of mankind, than this repulsive and disgusting way of chasing the > lust. Because this will inevitably and eventually end up with > gonorrhoea. > > Matthijs > > On 3 okt, 02:52, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I'm rather hoping to write something that will sell Matt. I have > > never experienced hookers in cheap hotels or elsewhere other than in > > the course of research. Once, In Amsterdam, stuck with a bloke I > > didn't like much, I wandered through the red light district with him > > as he had asked to see it. I'm probably something of a prude really > > and a cop at the time - showing a writer something of the sex and > > drugs scene as a favour. The guy was a bit too right wing for me and > > we'd only managed a few polite exchanges. We passed a few windows and > > some of the guys pimping shows (I've never seen one, despite a lot of > > brothel creeping police work). After 10 minutes he said thanks, went > > to a canal bridge and threw up. Somehow this made him much more > > worthwhile and we went to a coffee shop for a few brews and a tope. > > He got a lot out of me after that. A world in which none of this is > > 'necessary' interests me. > > > On 2 Oct, 11:36, Matthijs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Wonderful, that story came right from the soul! But you seem somewhat > > > focussed on the sexual aspects of future creations, whatever is in the > > > future can impossible be much worse than a hooker in a cheap motel, > > > keep that in mind. And do not forget that S. Hawking gambled about the > > > existence and creation of our universe, for a subscription on the > > > private eye and the playmate (important to notice: he won). So science > > > is showing some good developments, in our benefits. > > > > Matthijs > > > > Matthijs > > > On 1 okt, 15:39, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I have been something of an addict over the years too Matt. I am > > > > highly critical of the science and the soap opera morality and wish we > > > > could try something less obviously edifying and 'American'. 'We like > > > > Star Trek, but why are there no Arabs in it?' asks the Saudi. > > > > 'Because it's set in the future', replies President Bush (pick from > > > > two equally evil). Janeway has a few genocides to account for. Warp > > > > travel is essentially flawed - the Hawking radiation would get us. > > > > Still, it whiles away the hours! Q could be George W playing with his > > > > military toys and foreign policy! > > > > > My own story concerns the birth of relativity-travel (we age only 30 > > > > years in travelling to the 'edge of the universe', but it ages 15 > > > > billion years as we 'get there'), new genetic form including GROCS > > > > that render lying a poor strategy and give pleasure and learning > > > > beyond current imagination and a Cathar sect determined to stop > > > > relativity-travel in order to prevent any human future so that there > > > > can be a general return to the preferable nothingness. Here lies the > > > > opportunity for fresh ethical debates - what would the love between > > > > man and woman be when procreation was robotised, sexual pleasure as > > > > nothing compared with GROCS-based intensity, Machiavellian plotting > > > > doomed to pathetic failure (it is now isn't it?) because learning is > > > > so easily shared, dishonesty so difficult to maintain and over- > > > > population 'cured' by two world wars and humanity (such as it might > > > > become with genetic control) not confined to a time relative only to > > > > the heat death of the sun and our own destruction of the planet? > > > > > GROCS is a genetic-relational open communication system (my thanks to > > > > Orn for introduction to grok). I will never finish the writing if I > > > > attempt to explain all. Chris and I are returning to Moonbase Three > > > > after a year mining new life from a Jupiter moon - a somewhat mushroom- > > > > enlivened period as we had to work GROCS-free though strange gravity > > > > and zero gravity, playing adolescent games with early 21st century > > > > porn and women-fancying (to better understand the mentality that had > > > > led to WW3 and 4), though we already live lives without this on what > > > > is left of Earth. Harem dreams are as nothing once one can GROCS, > > > > reproductive fetish (what woman in this new world would want the pain > > > > and time-consumption of pregnancy) as nothing when one can build new > > > > life that can travel the universe, pleasure so intense and varied one > > > > can listen to Beethoven's 9th as a connoisseur might, learn as the > > > > best can ... one might boldly go beyond the replacement of the horse > > > > by Enterprise or Voyager. > > > > > On 30 Sep, 12:34, Matthijs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I love the series, it gives me fresh ideas. And has good moral and > > > > > ethic debates. I like the Q episodes. > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pZSw7ojvw8&feature=related --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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