Our eldest daughter is over there. She gets the feeling Israeli politics is too corrupt for much decent to happen. I haven't been for years - back then there was a socialist ethos I rather liked. I have a general thought about situations like this - we rarely turn our own thinking about 'Western madness' into wondering how we look to 'loonies' like Gaddafi. I think the whole area is closer to war than we are admitting in public and it's us looking to spark it off. The talk of peace looks very shaky against the realities, whatever they are. Orn's transcript almost shows a man to believe in given what we know about the UN - but what can we know. I fancy we are pushing the Mad Dinner Jacket (I've been at a conference with him in attendance and he was very civilised, very capable in argument - especially in explaining the holocaust denial as something very different from our neo-Nazi stuff) into an extreme position hoping he will allow some kind of strike to protect himself and the establishment from the moderate majority in Iran. I hope I'm wrong, but we seem to do almost anything rather than encourage democracy out there. If the area had any sense it would give itself up to Swiss colonisation, but then so would we if we had any sense!
On 30 Sep, 23:42, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > Fran, while I watched his presentation to the UN and did find it a > little rambling, the specific I was referring to was his interview > with Larry King, on TV, which I watched too. I did not find that > bizarre in the least. Well, good ‘ol Larry is a hoot and has aspects > of bizarreness! ;-) To be fair, you might want to watch a video rather > than just read what occurred, although I couldn’t find a copy of the > video interview. Strange. Here is the transcript: > > http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/28/lkl.01.html > > On Sep 30, 8:27 am, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > A cantonal solution - perhaps something along the Swiss model, but > > with even less centralisation - has been frequently suggested, > > possibly with an independent canton of Jerusalem serving also as > > capital of the Confederation. Internationally guaranteed and perhaps, > > in the initial stages, with some kind of international policing > > component. Looked at from outside, "objectively", such a structure > > seems to offers much of the freedoms and safeguards demanded by both > > sides. In this sense, Gadaffi's suggestion does have merit (even if > > the circumstances were somewhat > > bizarrehttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article68...). > > > However, the issues involved are not approached in the area primarily > > from a rational point of view. > > > Francis > > > On 30 Sep., 09:18, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > fran, yes....however, due to the attitudes here in the states, I > > > wanted the idea to be anonymous...still interested in what others > > > think of the idea. > > > > On Sep 29, 11:57 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I think one country would result in a genocide of the Palestinians,,, > > > > Israel > > > > is trying to kill as may as they can with every thing they do or that > > > > seems > > > > seems that way.. what would be more interesting is have the UN define > > > > the > > > > borders as they did in 1948 making one part Palestine and and the other > > > > part > > > > Israel.. and anyone living in Palestine territory automaticly would fall > > > > under Palestine law and Israel should have no input.. > > > > Allan > > > > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 6:28 AM, ornamentalmind > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > Yesterday, a world leader suggested uniting Israel and Palestine into > > > > > one country, Israetine. He said that “…: That is the historic > > > > > solution, a peaceful one, a peaceful solution. All other efforts will > > > > > fail. This solution will succeed only. Not adopting this solution will > > > > > lead to great losses on both parties...” > > > > > > What do YOU think? > > > > > -- > > > > ( > > > > ) > > > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
