Besides what do these odds really mean? I have been told that there is a bigger chance of my hurting myself in a DIY accident, then getting hit by a car, yet I still practice the green cross code when I have to cross the road. Somebody somewhere wins the lotto almolst every week.
Not I though, I really don't do it, come to think of it, I really don't do DIY either. On 7 Oct, 04:32, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > Don, it's not about lotto but the reality, even for you, that social > mobility is highly dependent on several factors including but not > limited to having money. Having money is worthless without the "where > with all" to know what to do with it. Odds? What are your odds of > having dinner with the upper crust of society? You see? You might be > like trailer trash to the people "Up There". > It's the view from the window of a three story tenement in the ghetto > that lay the odds of "Having Dinner", going to college and living a > life that is in the least decent and not substandard slum dog > squalor. > For sure the odds are high in any lotto or scratch off game and many > people win small sums but what would you do with $189 > million?http://www.huliq.com/8326/87275/powerball-winner-florida-hits-193m-ja... > > On Oct 6, 8:38 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Didn't know the Lotto took any tax payer money. I love it. Helps > > keep my property taxes from rising. The Lotto is funded by Hope and > > Stupidity. Frankly, they pay out more hope dividends then the other > > purveyor of Hope, Barrack Obama. > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGrbM-7YH9k > > > I don't know what's funnier, the SNL skit or CNN's 'fact check' of a > > comedy routine. Reading the comments below the video is enlightening. > > Could this be a representation of what America thinks of our current > > president? Naaaah. > > > dj > > > On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 6:54 PM, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > For me, when given the choice between Acorn, Wall Street and the > > > Lotto, I will take Acorn. They take less tax payer money. > > > >http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/27983.html > > > > On Oct 6, 3:52 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> It's like Orn says, anybody that plays the lotto and actually thinks > > >> they have a snowballs chance are really bad at math. But I confess > > >> when our 'power ball" was over 350 million a few months ago I bought a > > >> ticket. Even at 15 million to one odds I got a little thrill and had > > >> a good half hour discussion with my partner at work on what we'd do > > >> with all that smack if we won. Well worth the buck I'd say. > > > >> You are right of course. I know I don't know what it's like to be > > >> desperate and poor. I have never experienced it. I have ALWAYS had > > >> the option to move in with Mom and Dad or stay with my brother or even > > >> crash at a friends house when times were dicey. Even then I had > > >> savings I could have burned to tide me over for a few months to find a > > >> new job. It's how I was taught; Be prepared. I've never been fired > > >> but was laid off after the IRS shut down the store I was managing. I > > >> moved in with Mom and Dad for a few months. Trust me; that was > > >> harrowing enough I never wanted to do it again. Now, 22 years later > > >> they are moving in with me. > > > >> It frustrates me that we have organizations like Acorn that are set up > > >> to teach people to rob the system. I wish we could motivate people to > > >> start their own business and hire people and do community service > > >> rather then promote fraud. The Chamber of Commerce is a good start > > >> but something tells me the slums don't have a very effective branch. > > >> The over all sense of entitlement in these communities is mind > > >> boggling. I would love to give them a hand up but too often it seems > > >> this is not what they are looking for. At least that's the way it > > >> appears to me. Granted, options for the poor are limited. But in > > >> this country there are a lot more then in many others. Just removing > > >> the temptations of easy money provided by thievery or drug sales would > > >> vastly improve these communities. I have found that those that live > > >> in these type communities tend to enable this behavior by not > > >> reporting crimes. The police become the bad guys. Lee, tell me if > > >> I'm wrong. > > > >> dj > > > >> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> > It is a lot more complex that what you are presenting Don. There is a > > >> > deeper psychological aspect to be concerned with. Poor people who > > >> > lose their lotto winnings don't have financial backgrounds, they don't > > >> > come from a family of bankers, have friends who are wall street > > >> > tycoons or have top notch advisers. Instead they go out thinking they > > >> > are rich to no end and spend their way into the ditch as well as much > > >> > of the time getting 'ripped off' by shady investors. Of course you > > >> > must know that the majority of winners retain most of their new found > > >> > wealth. The mental condition of a person receiving assistance has a > > >> > great deal to do with their own success in life, chances are if you > > >> > gave a bag lady 10 G's, all you would have is a bag lady with 10 G's, > > >> > obviously she has issues that have sustained her bag lady lifestyle. > > >> > But let 's look at the ghetto problem and growing up in such > > >> > deplorable conditions. That has to have an impact on a child growing > > >> > up, the security factor alone, living in fear, health issues from > > >> > living amongst the filth and vermin. The totality of the environment > > >> > becomes a microcosm of perpetuated detriment. They are well aware of > > >> > their plight and can see the world about with all it's grandeur but > > >> > only see themselves in it in the form of a dream. So what little they > > >> > have becomes the only thing that is left to fight for, as there really > > >> > isn't much left of personal dignity. I'm sure the kids in your > > >> > neighborhood are not living under the same conditions and as a result > > >> > have a different outlook on life, they see a future and have security, > > >> > parents who can nurture them in ways that can lead them upwards. From > > >> > the time they are born they are on the road to a successful future and > > >> > even sometimes the affluent can have their share of failures. It's > > >> > the same anywhere else. What are the chances of attaining wealth when > > >> > you are a 'slum dog'? If I won lotto I would never go poor, it's all > > >> > about common sense, self control and good math. > > > >> > On Oct 5, 9:53 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> You can't spend your way out poverty Slip. Statistics show a > > >> >> surprising number of poor people that win the lottery and take the > > >> >> cash option(generally the smarter move) are broke 10 years later. We > > >> >> can build all the tenements and projects we want and those places will > > >> >> invariably return to trash in the near future because some people just > > >> >> won't help themselves. When apathy is rewarded it makes it difficult > > >> >> for some to see the benefits in working themselves into a better way > > >> >> of life when all they need is provided gratis. I personally feel it's > > >> >> morally wrong. > > > >> >> By the way. Violence IS a solution. Very often it is the most > > >> >> economical and effective solution. This is why it will continue to be > > >> >> implemented by individuals and governments until the end of time. It > > >> >> just so happens it makes me sick to my stomach. > > > >> >> dj > > > >> >> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> >> > Cynical? > > > >> >> > Woestehoff says this investigation is long overdue. She complains > > >> >> > that > > >> >> > wealthy and well-connected parents have long-been throwing around > > >> >> > their clout on behalf of their children. The rules ought to be the > > >> >> > same for everybody. But, you know, this is Chicago. And we know that > > >> >> > in Chicago there’s an expectation that a certain group of people who > > >> >> > have power will be able to get their children into any school. > > >> >> > Unqualified students who have parents with clout aren’t just > > >> >> > attending > > >> >> > public high schools. The issue has also plagued top officials at the > > >> >> > University of Illinois in recent months. They’re accused of > > >> >> > admitting > > >> >> > hundreds of unqualified students. The scandal involves the president > > >> >> > of the university along with many high-ranking elected officials. > > >> >> > A state panel investigating the admissions process recently > > >> >> > recommended every trustee on the board resign and yesterday, the > > >> >> > chairman of the board did just that. > > > >> >> >http://www.chicagopublicradio.org/Content.aspx?audioID=35938 > > > >> >> > Absurd? > > > >> >> > Admissions clout clearly thrived in places where families were > > >> >> > politically savvy and well-positioned to tap into connections with > > >> >> > elected officials and university trustees, said educators and other > > >> >> > observers. > > >> >> > Just how skewed was the campus clout list? Half of the 616 Illinois > > >> >> > students who received preferential treatment from 2005 to 2009 > > >> >> > graduated from just 22 high schools, all but one in the metro area. > > >> >> > Meanwhile, at least 668 Illinois high schools had no clouted > > >> >> > applicants at all. > > > >> >> >http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-clout-schools-17-jul17,0... > > > >> >> > There's more as you must know. I didn't apply anything to the world > > >> >> > at large, clearly the elite school comment was pertinent to Chicago > > >> >> > but I will admit that I think it does go on in other parts of the > > >> >> > country and the world. Besides, you should understand that I'm > > >> >> > addressing the fact that poverty, while there are exceptions, is a > > >> >> > nurtured aspect of the world. It's Marx distinction between the > > >> >> > powerful and the powerless, the establishment of a social strata > > >> >> > which > > >> >> > is prevalent in many parts of the world, fact is I don't know of any > > >> >> > off hand that function without it, some- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
