Hey, Allan -- I didn't know there was "an event astronomically that can be dated like a total solar eclipse over Jerusalem in 33 CE.". Cool!
You have "often wondered what the new testament of the bible would be like if you removed the parts that are in reality are made up short stories used to sell a bill of goods. ". It seems most others here agree with your premise. But I don't see how one could know "in realitiy" the resurrection and nativity are stories, unless it is just deduction from an a-priori principle such as "miracles don't happen", in which case every report of a miracle must be interpreted as a story. Very well, but one who does not accept this principle is not obliged to dismiss the miracles as stories. But assuming they are stories, this raises a second question. What's a good way to sell a bill of goods? One can hardly sell a bill of goods by sticking to facts. Perhaps, then, it is the end -- "a bill of goods" that is the culprit, and not the means: making up stories. In which case, what is the bill of goods being sold? I suppose some misinformed atheists believe it is the promise of eternal life. "Just do X", says the salesman, "and you will earn eternal life". Now if that is the bill of goods being sold, the Catholic joins the atheist in rejecting it! On Oct 23, 10:57 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > I have often wondered what the new testament of the bible would be like if > you removed the parts that are in reality are made up short stories used to > sell a bill of goods. An example(s) being the nativity stories, the > resurrection (misunderstood,) the writings of Saul Of Tarsus the book of > revelations. to name a few > > I wonder if a book (it would probably be very short) getting rid of the > exact interpretation but rather trying to expressed express the ideas that > Jesus the man best wanted to express. I look at our group and the atheists > and agnostics have a very valuable role in working out that validity of what > is being said. There is a definite need to counter balance my own beliefs > and those of other fanatics. > > To tell the truth this would be a total dream for me. There is an event > astronomically that can be dated like a total solar eclipse over Jerusalem > in 33 CE. I do know that there are religious fanatics in the Philippines > that are crucified (literally) and they regularly survive it. I think these > things need to be taken into account, from what I understand it actually > takes several days to die that way. > > Here I have to admit I am jealous of the sheer enlightenment of spiritual > knowledge Francis and other members of this group possess. I am hoping they > will take to this idea. > Allan > > ( > ) > I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
