The subject of the soul is big, and there is much material that can be referenced. Many in this group don't consider it at all, and that in itself, I think, can shape our experience. There is a newly released book called Soul Shaping by Jeff Brown that is getting alot of buzz, although I haven't read it. I hear from others who give it a rave.
I think that like our psychological awareness, our soul awareness expands and changes over the course of our lives. I see soul as that intermediary to spirit, like ego to our psyche. Once we have clarified ego, our psyche is much more integrated and accessible. Likewise with soul, once we are fully aware of it, spirit is more integrated and accessible. Karma, or the law of cause and effect, in soul can, I think, be transcended when we reach the state of full acceptance. Much like the state where we are no longer bound by transference or projection of ego once we can accept our emotional structures and stop relying on them as a basis of response - I think we are no longer bound by karma when we accept ourselves as everyone that has ever lived, ever will live, is living. This acceptance of death in life takes us beyond cause and effect, and brings us into a state that allows the manifestation of our experience based on our recognition of possibility and commitment (love) of life. This is my experience of reincarnation and soul. Thanks for asking. On Oct 26, 5:19 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > Synesius (AD 370-480), Bishop of Ptolemais, also taught the concept, and in > a prayer that has survived, he says: "Father, grant that my soul may merge > into the light, and be no more thrust back into the illusion of earth." > > This is an interesting Idea, and the bishop is very right. Because the soul > is able to be reborn to continue its journey to spiritual harmony and > balance with the Father Creator (God). Yes Orn back to common knowledge, all > souls know this or at least the great knowledge and those that don't if any > are few and far between. so I do not think it something that needs to be > taught as dogma and doctrine. > > The object of our life is to improve our spiritual condition striving for > harmony and balance within the concept of the universe and related planes. > As the Universal law simply stated is be good it leaves a lot of latitude > because we are supposed to do as little harm as possible contributing to the > betterment of all. > > The problem with metempsychosis teaching is that there are those will look > at the concept and say oh goody I have another go round, as a result causing > great harm to those around them and our world. The problem with this is it > can lead to the deepest and darkest hole of shame and despair with complete > separation from the rest of the universe. Their whole world becomes one of > self centred being and emptiness, with this shame burdening the soul I think > it becomes awful difficult to go through metempsychosis. > > Metempsychosis now that is a cool word. > Allan > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 1:15 AM, ornamentalmind > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > Some approach the inclusion of reincarnation in much of the ‘original’ > > forms of Christianity in a less condensed and less jocular way. > > >http://www.theosophy-nw.org/theosnw/reincar/re-imo.htm > > > On Oct 25, 4:51 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Carnation is our leading brand of condensed milk Doris. I suspect > > > Moll takes her coffee black ... > > > > On 25 Oct, 16:20, Doris Ragland <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Molly what do you think about recarnation ??? and what do you know > > > > about this ? Thank You > > > > > On Oct 25, 6:00 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Thanks for the beautiful description of the final (in this life) > > > > > resurrection, Alan. I think we also go through (if we are lucky) > > many > > > > > smaller ones in our life, where we are able to shed the old > > > > > structures, biases and beliefs of ego and reinvent ourselves, > > > > > resurrect our spirit anew in this life and begin again. > > > > > > On Oct 25, 5:01 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I used to belong to an astronomy club in Bozeman Montana.. and > > several o the > > > > > > members ran the planetarium that is there so we would look at a > > lot of > > > > > > different ideas, and there was a solar eclipse happening at the > > time so the > > > > > > idea came up to find out whre they had occured.. and i believe it > > was 33 CE > > > > > > and there was one right over jersulem around the time of his > > crucifiction. > > > > > > That was how they were able to date? it. > > > > > > > The nativity scene great short story,, but there would have no > > real reason > > > > > > to record it and .. just can not buy it.. > > > > > > > Miricales I am not totally ready to dismiss to many native > > american > > > > > > medicine men and things I don't understand I have seen and feltr > > to much > > > > > > and I can not explain it.. then there is my ex and that I can > > partially > > > > > > medically document it was weird. > > > > > > > As for the reserection thing when my father died I was with him.. > > very > > > > > > tamatic for me as I loved him much more than I realized.. What > > evolved is > > > > > > the idea what if our life here is a form of death of the soul or > > maybe a > > > > > > proving ground for morality.. and upon death one given accounting > > of ones > > > > > > life and choices(God does not provide it) rather it is a record we > > create of > > > > > > our own memories. If death is really the rebirth into a totally > > spiritual > > > > > > existance which I think the soul is designed for what you have is > > the true > > > > > > definition of a reserection.. the rebirth back into the spiritual > > life. > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > , Alan Wosterberg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hey, Allan -- I didn't know there was "an event astronomically > > that > > > > > > > can be dated like a total solar eclipse over Jerusalem in 33 > > CE.". > > > > > > > Cool! > > > > > > > > You have "often wondered what the new testament of the bible > > would > > > > > > > be like if you removed the parts that are in reality are made up > > > > > > > short stories used to sell a bill of goods. ". It seems most > > others > > > > > > > here agree with your premise. > > > > > > > > But I don't see how one could know "in realitiy" the resurrection > > and > > > > > > > nativity are stories, unless it is just deduction from an > > a-priori > > > > > > > principle such as "miracles don't happen", in which case every > > report > > > > > > > of a miracle must be interpreted as a story. Very well, but one > > who > > > > > > > does not accept this principle is not obliged to dismiss the > > miracles > > > > > > > as stories. > > > > > > > > But assuming they are stories, this raises a second question. > > What's a > > > > > > > good way to sell a bill of goods? One can hardly sell a bill of > > goods > > > > > > > by sticking to facts. Perhaps, then, it is the end -- "a bill of > > > > > > > goods" that is the culprit, and not the means: making up stories. > > > > > > > > In which case, what is the bill of goods being sold? I suppose > > some > > > > > > > misinformed atheists believe it is the promise of eternal life. > > "Just > > > > > > > do X", says the salesman, "and you will earn eternal life". Now > > if > > > > > > > that is the bill of goods being sold, the Catholic joins the > > atheist > > > > > > > in rejecting it! > > > > > > > > On Oct 23, 10:57 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I have often wondered what the new testament of the bible > > would be like > > > > > > > if > > > > > > > > you removed the parts that are in reality are made up short > > stories used > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > sell a bill of goods. An example(s) being the nativity stories, > > the > > > > > > > > resurrection (misunderstood,) the writings of Saul Of Tarsus > > the book > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > revelations. to name a few > > > > > > > > > I wonder if a book (it would probably be very short) getting > > rid of the > > > > > > > > exact interpretation but rather trying to expressed express the > > ideas > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > Jesus the man best wanted to express. I look at our group and > > the > > > > > > > atheists > > > > > > > > and agnostics have a very valuable role in working out that > > validity of > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > is being said. There is a definite need to counter balance my > > own > > > > > > > beliefs > > > > > > > > and those of other fanatics. > > > > > > > > > To tell the truth this would be a total dream for me. There is > > an event > > > > > > > > astronomically that can be dated like a total solar eclipse > > over > > > > > > > Jerusalem > > > > > > > > in 33 CE. I do know that there are religious fanatics in the > > Philippines > > > > > > > > that are crucified (literally) and they regularly survive it. I > > think > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > things need to be taken into account, from what I understand it > > actually > > > > > > > > takes several days to die that way. > > > > > > > > > Here I have to admit I am jealous of the sheer enlightenment of > > spiritual > > > > > > > > knowledge Francis and other members of this group possess. I am > > hoping > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > will take to this idea. > > > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > > > ) > > > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ( > > > > > > ) > > > > > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
