hmmm On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:51 AM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Carnation is our leading brand of condensed milk Doris. I suspect > Moll takes her coffee black ... > Isn't rcearnation when you when you ad a second does to your koffie,, sorry I drink mine black Allan ;o) > On 25 Oct, 16:20, Doris Ragland <[email protected]> wrote: > > Molly what do you think about recarnation ??? and what do you know > > about this ? Thank You > yeah I thimk that is right > > > > On Oct 25, 6:00 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the beautiful description of the final (in this life) > > > resurrection, Alan. I think we also go through (if we are lucky) many > > > smaller ones in our life, where we are able to shed the old > > > structures, biases and beliefs of ego and reinvent ourselves, > > > resurrect our spirit anew in this life and begin again. > > > > > On Oct 25, 5:01 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I used to belong to an astronomy club in Bozeman Montana.. and > several o the > > > > members ran the planetarium that is there so we would look at a lot > of > > > > different ideas, and there was a solar eclipse happening at the time > so the > > > > idea came up to find out whre they had occured.. and i believe it was > 33 CE > > > > and there was one right over jersulem around the time of his > crucifiction. > > > > That was how they were able to date? it. > > > > > > The nativity scene great short story,, but there would have no real > reason > > > > to record it and .. just can not buy it.. > > > > > > Miricales I am not totally ready to dismiss to many native american > > > > medicine men and things I don't understand I have seen and feltr to > much > > > > and I can not explain it.. then there is my ex and that I can > partially > > > > medically document it was weird. > > > > > > As for the reserection thing when my father died I was with him.. > very > > > > tamatic for me as I loved him much more than I realized.. What > evolved is > > > > the idea what if our life here is a form of death of the soul or > maybe a > > > > proving ground for morality.. and upon death one given accounting > of ones > > > > life and choices(God does not provide it) rather it is a record we > create of > > > > our own memories. If death is really the rebirth into a totally > spiritual > > > > existance which I think the soul is designed for what you have is > the true > > > > definition of a reserection.. the rebirth back into the spiritual > life. > > > > Allan > > > > > > , Alan Wosterberg <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hey, Allan -- I didn't know there was "an event astronomically that > > > > > can be dated like a total solar eclipse over Jerusalem in 33 CE.". > > > > > Cool! > > > > > > > You have "often wondered what the new testament of the bible > would > > > > > be like if you removed the parts that are in reality are made up > > > > > short stories used to sell a bill of goods. ". It seems most > others > > > > > here agree with your premise. > > > > > > > But I don't see how one could know "in realitiy" the resurrection > and > > > > > nativity are stories, unless it is just deduction from an a-priori > > > > > principle such as "miracles don't happen", in which case every > report > > > > > of a miracle must be interpreted as a story. Very well, but one who > > > > > does not accept this principle is not obliged to dismiss the > miracles > > > > > as stories. > > > > > > > But assuming they are stories, this raises a second question. > What's a > > > > > good way to sell a bill of goods? One can hardly sell a bill of > goods > > > > > by sticking to facts. Perhaps, then, it is the end -- "a bill of > > > > > goods" that is the culprit, and not the means: making up stories. > > > > > > > In which case, what is the bill of goods being sold? I suppose some > > > > > misinformed atheists believe it is the promise of eternal life. > "Just > > > > > do X", says the salesman, "and you will earn eternal life". Now if > > > > > that is the bill of goods being sold, the Catholic joins the > atheist > > > > > in rejecting it! > > > > > > > On Oct 23, 10:57 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I have often wondered what the new testament of the bible would > be like > > > > > if > > > > > > you removed the parts that are in reality are made up short > stories used > > > > > to > > > > > > sell a bill of goods. An example(s) being the nativity stories, > the > > > > > > resurrection (misunderstood,) the writings of Saul Of Tarsus > the book > > > > > of > > > > > > revelations. to name a few > > > > > > > > I wonder if a book (it would probably be very short) getting rid > of the > > > > > > exact interpretation but rather trying to expressed express the > ideas > > > > > that > > > > > > Jesus the man best wanted to express. I look at our group and > the > > > > > atheists > > > > > > and agnostics have a very valuable role in working out that > validity of > > > > > what > > > > > > is being said. There is a definite need to counter balance my > own > > > > > beliefs > > > > > > and those of other fanatics. > > > > > > > > To tell the truth this would be a total dream for me. There is an > event > > > > > > astronomically that can be dated like a total solar eclipse over > > > > > Jerusalem > > > > > > in 33 CE. I do know that there are religious fanatics in the > Philippines > > > > > > that are crucified (literally) and they regularly survive it. I > think > > > > > these > > > > > > things need to be taken into account, from what I understand it > actually > > > > > > takes several days to die that way. > > > > > > > > Here I have to admit I am jealous of the sheer enlightenment of > spiritual > > > > > > knowledge Francis and other members of this group possess. I am > hoping > > > > > they > > > > > > will take to this idea. > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > > ( > > > > > > ) > > > > > > I_D Allan > > > > > > -- > > > > ( > > > > ) > > > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- ( ) I_D Allan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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