before you comment read a copy and make up your own mind.(aging a
lifelong trek to nirvana)

On Oct 23, 11:25 am, [email protected] wrote:
> IAM - I like your idea. As an agnostic I choose to think of Jesus as one of a 
> group of elightened wise people
>
> who had a sophisticated awareness of how consciousness evolves. So when Jesus 
> speaks about transformation
>
> I think he may be talking about shifts in perception lead to potential shifts 
> in consciousness. "Be ye transformed" I think
>
> may have  nothing to do with transcendence to an after life but may have 
> everything to do with making transformations on
>
>  on this earth plane. If I am right then Jesus was referring to an expanded 
> logic melding conventional linear scientific
>
> linear causality with complex "messy" feelings the resulting in what I refer 
> to as experiential logic.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: iam deheretic <[email protected]>
> To: minds-eye <[email protected]>
> Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2009 1:57 pm
> Subject: [Mind's Eye] A new (old) book
>
> I have often wondered what the new  testament of  the bible would be like if 
> you removed the parts that are in reality are made up short stories used to 
> sell a bill of goods. An example(s) being the nativity stories, the 
> resurrection (misunderstood,)   the writings of Saul Of Tarsus  the book of 
> revelations. to name a few
>
> I wonder if a book (it would probably be very short) getting rid of the exact 
> interpretation but rather trying to expressed express the ideas that Jesus 
> the man best wanted to express.  I look at our group and the atheists and 
> agnostics have a very valuable role in working out that validity of what is 
> being said.  There is a definite need to counter balance my own beliefs and 
> those of other fanatics.
>
> To tell the truth this would be a total dream for me. There is an event 
> astronomically that can be dated like a total solar eclipse over Jerusalem in 
> 33 CE. I do know that there are religious fanatics in the Philippines that 
> are crucified (literally) and they regularly survive it. I think these things 
> need to be taken into account, from what I understand it actually takes 
> several days to die that way.
>
> Here I have to admit I am jealous of the sheer enlightenment of spiritual 
> knowledge Francis and other members of this group possess. I am hoping they 
> will take to this idea.
> Allan
>
> (
>  )
> I_D Allan
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