The work of The Jesus Seminar, while some scholars might quibble over certain of their methods and results, give a basic method of delineating aspects of the Jesus event which seem to have a broad basis of acceptance with respect to some kind of authenticity:
According to the Jesus Seminar: Jesus of Nazareth was born during the reign of Herod the Great. His mother's name was Mary, and he had a human father whose name may not have been Joseph. Jesus was born in Nazareth, not in Bethlehem. Jesus was an itinerant sage who shared meals with social outcasts. Jesus practiced healing without the use of ancient medicine or magic, relieving afflictions we now consider psychosomatic. He did not walk on water, feed the multitude with loaves and fishes, change water into wine or raise Lazarus from the dead. Jesus was arrested in Jerusalem and crucified by the Romans. He was executed as a public nuisance, not for claiming to be the Son of God. The empty tomb is a fiction – Jesus was not raised bodily from the dead. Belief in the resurrection is based on the visionary experiences of Paul, Peter and Mary Magdalene. (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Seminar) See also: http://www.westarinstitute.org/ http://virtualreligion.net/forum/ http://www.veritas-ucsb.org//library/pearson/seminar/home.html Francis On 23 Okt., 21:41, [email protected] wrote: > The fact that Jesus was part of the Essenes suggests that he was aware of > esoteric occult consciousness. > > To me this is a much more tenable explanation of his mixed clear and opaque > style. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: frantheman <[email protected]> > To: "Minds Eye" <[email protected]> > Sent: Fri, Oct 23, 2009 3:04 pm > Subject: [Mind's Eye] Re: A new (old) book > > ttempts to get to the original Jesus have been manifold, and the area > s one of difficult scholarship, particularly given the fact that > extual criticism is a central theme in many philosophical debates > ith regard to structuralism and deconstruction. The following two > ikipedia links can serve only as a beginning for those who really > ant to get into this very complex > subject:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Quest_for_the_Historical_Jesus > ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_Jesus#Quest_for_the_historical_Jesus > Francis > On 23 Okt., 20:49, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > Allan, while not exactly what you say you are looking for, Thomas > Jefferson published an interesting version of the New Testament > removing sections "... containing supernatural aspects as well as > perceived misinterpretations he believed had been added by the Four > Evangelists." > > One can read more about it here: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Bible > > On Oct 23, 10:57 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I have often wondered what the new testament of the bible would be like > if > > you removed the parts that are in reality are made up short stories used to > > sell a bill of goods. An example(s) being the nativity stories, the > > resurrection (misunderstood,) the writings of Saul Of Tarsus the book of > > revelations. to name a few > > > I wonder if a book (it would probably be very short) getting rid of the > > exact interpretation but rather trying to expressed express the ideas that > > Jesus the man best wanted to express. I look at our group and the atheists > > and agnostics have a very valuable role in working out that validity of > what > > is being said. There is a definite need to counter balance my own beliefs > > and those of other fanatics. > > > To tell the truth this would be a total dream for me. There is an event > > astronomically that can be dated like a total solar eclipse over Jerusalem > > in 33 CE. I do know that there are religious fanatics in the Philippines > > that are crucified (literally) and they regularly survive it. I think these > > things need to be taken into account, from what I understand it actually > > takes several days to die that way. > > > Here I have to admit I am jealous of the sheer enlightenment of spiritual > > knowledge Francis and other members of this group possess. I am hoping they > > will take to this idea. > > Allan > > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan > -~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ > ou received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Minds Eye"" group. > o post to this group, send email to [email protected] > o unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > or more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en > ~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~--- --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
