Ohh perhaps we have but really can you not envisage what may happen to
a country berift of some sort of goverment?  Would people just go out
and maintian the highways, police the state, ensure the country was
not easy for another to invade, provide education for the young,
healthcare for the sick, food clothing an energy for the people?

Nope we certianly need people to do these things.

Heh bad mood gone now, it really is just a morning thing with me,
perhaps I should just not watch the news before leaving for my morning
hell trip, umm I mean commute.


On 30 Nov, 14:08, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> We have been educated and brainwashed to believe we "need" politicians
> (royal families, shady executives and financial thieves, etc.) to get
> "things" done just as immigrants were strong-armed that they needed
> "protection" from the mafia and hoodlums in order to safeguard their
> businesses and families. For that matter, many educators are little
> more than baby/young adult sitters and knowledge can be aquired
> without their dubious assistance- they issue a degree that proves
> nothing.//On the other hand, I hate to tweak your already fragile
> mood- so cheer up, mate, and have a good week!
>
> On Nov 30, 4:12 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I was pondering, nope sorry wrong word let me start again.
>
> > This morning I was watching the news on breakfast TV before I left for
> > work, one story that had me steaming was the on about a school dinner
> > lady who got the sack after telling a parent of her daugther being
> > bullyed at aschool.  This girl had been tied up against a fence and
> > whiped with a skipping rope by four boys. The school sent home a
> > letter to the parents of the girl informing them that she had been
> > involved in an incedent with a skipping rope.  No further detials than
> > that.  This happend a while ago and the story was really about the
> > dinner lady losing her cuort fight to be reinstated.
>
> > So in this case when the truth is told, the teller gets punished, the
> > school it seems to me was more interested in the schools good standing
> > in the commuity than the poor bullied girl.
>
> > There was also an inteview with a higher up in the NHS poo pooing the
> > report by the Dr Foster body which suggests that at least 11 HNS Trust
> > hospitals offer substandard care. Such lack of care causeing the
> > needless and aviodable deaths of many patients, manly due to lack of
> > cleanlyness.  9 of these hospitals had apperantly passed checks and
> > where named in an NHS report as safe and good hospitals.  The thing
> > with this one is that the NHS checkd were carried out by the
> > management of each hospital trust, in house and as the interviewer put
> > it. ticking their own boxes.  The higher up blustered on about how the
> > Dr Foster body merely took existing statistics and made of them what
> > they will.  So again it seems that the higer up you are the less you
> > want the truth to be known.
>
> > Now lets not talk about those biggest untruth tellers of the lot, the
> > politicians, coz well coz I guess we do need them, and I'm not ready
> > to get that angry on a Monday with a full working week ahead of me.
>
> > On 29 Nov, 15:58, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > We can bleat forever about the nature of truth.  I generally prefer a
> > > limited notion of truth and honesty against lies and deception.  This
> > > is not the whole story, but broadly speaking, if I'm on a jury I want
> > > to know 'the truth' to make my decision.  I don't much fancy sending
> > > someone to the gallows on the basis of whether Jupiter is in
> > > conjunction with a horse's ass.  What has happened to this level of
> > > truth and in whose interests is it to make it so difficult to know
> > > about global warming, wealth, what our basic ways of living should be
> > > and so on?  An exploration of human and vested interests is likely to
> > > tell us more about this than trying to find personal integrity.  The
> > > general academic consensus is that we shy away from even looking at
> > > what goes on in the world because we are dire cowards who need to live
> > > in relativistic cloud-cuckoo lands and that reality is too tough for
> > > us.- Hide quoted text -
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