Well that is a rather valid point Alan.

The interconectivity of things blows my mind.   Try as you might to
get away from the subjectivity of things like 'truth' and 'morality'
it's like a bleedin' circle, round and round we go agian and
again. ;¬)

On 30 Nov, 15:58, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Nov 29, 7:58 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > We can bleat forever about the nature of truth.  I generally prefer a
> > limited notion of truth and honesty against lies and deception.  
>
> "Truth" says Aristotle, "is saying of what is that it is, and of what
> is not that it is not".  A liar, according to Mortimer Adler, is one
> who willfully displaces his ontological predicates: he says of what is
> that it is not, or of what is not that it is.  You say people lie and
> deceive about "global warming". The first thing to know about lying is
> that it is not the same as speaking falsehood. The liar knows he's
> lying. This means a) he knows the truth b) he speaks otherwise
>
> The the liar, like the honest man, respects the truth. The liar knows
> he is lying. This is in stark contrast to the bullshitter (http://tr.im/GcDf).
> Now, regarding claims about global warming: are they really liars? Or
> mere bullshitters?

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