That was pretty cool.  Not sure if you're implying Rummy is lying here
'cause if that's your point I'm totally missing it.  I remember the
Glass Box.  We had one at the local Jo Jo's which became a Denny's
about ten years ago.  It was fun to watch the kids try for the stuffed
monkey banging the cymbals together.  The image is a good analogy for
the global warmist's efforts to keep alive their failing 'science.'
Keep chasing that monkey or dragon or whatever if you want to I say.
It is wise to remember hope is a fragile thing.

I think i just went Gabbyly enigmatic there.

-Don


On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 4:53 PM, ornamentalmind
<[email protected]> wrote:
> The Poetry of D.H. Rumsfeld
> Recent works by the secretary of defense.
>
> By Hart SeelyPosted Wednesday, April 2, 2003, at 1:03 PM ET
>
> Rumsfeld's free-speaking verseSecretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld is
> an accomplished man. Not only is he guiding the war in Iraq, he has
> been a pilot, a congressman, an ambassador, a businessman, and a civil
> servant. But few Americans know that he is also a poet.
>
> Until now, the secretary's poetry has found only a small and skeptical
> audience: the Pentagon press corps. Every day, Rumsfeld regales
> reporters with his jazzy, impromptu riffs. Few of them seem to
> appreciate it.
>
> But we should all be listening. Rumsfeld's poetry is paradoxical: It
> uses playful language to address the most somber subjects: war,
> terrorism, mortality. Much of it is about indirection and evasion: He
> never faces his subjects head on but weaves away, letting inversions
> and repetitions confuse and beguile. His work, with its dedication to
> the fractured rhythms of the plainspoken vernacular, is reminiscent of
> William Carlos Williams'. Some readers may find that Rumsfeld's gift
> for offhand, quotidian pronouncements is as entrancing as Frank
> O'Hara's.
>
> And so Slate has compiled a collection of Rumsfeld's poems, bringing
> them to a wider public for the first time. The poems that follow are
> the exact words of the defense secretary, as taken from the official
> transcripts on the Defense Department Web site.
>
> The Unknown
>
> As we know,
> There are known knowns.
> There are things we know we know.
> We also know
> There are known unknowns.
> That is to say
> We know there are some things
> We do not know.
> But there are also unknown unknowns,
> The ones we don't know
> We don't know.
> —Feb. 12, 2002, Department of Defense news briefing
>
> Glass Box
>
> You know, it's the old glass box at the—
> At the gas station,
> Where you're using those little things
> Trying to pick up the prize,
> And you can't find it.
> It's—
> And it's all these arms are going down in there,
> And so you keep dropping it
> And picking it up again and moving it,
> But—
> Some of you are probably too young to remember those—
> Those glass boxes,
> But—
> But they used to have them
> At all the gas stations
> When I was a kid.
> —Dec. 6, 2001, Department of Defense news briefing
>
> A Confession
>
> Once in a while,
> I'm standing here, doing something.
> And I think,
> "What in the world am I doing here?"
> It's a big surprise.
> —May 16, 2001, interview with the New York Times
>
> Happenings
>
> You're going to be told lots of things.
> You get told things every day that don't happen.
> It doesn't seem to bother people, they don't—
> It's printed in the press.
> The world thinks all these things happen.
> They never happened.
> Everyone's so eager to get the story
> Before in fact the story's there
> That the world is constantly being fed
> Things that haven't happened.
> All I can tell you is,
> It hasn't happened.
> It's going to happen.
> —Feb. 28, 2003, Department of Defense briefing
>
> The Digital Revolution
>
> Oh my goodness gracious,
> What you can buy off the Internet
> In terms of overhead photography!
> A trained ape can know an awful lot
> Of what is going on in this world,
> Just by punching on his mouse
> For a relatively modest cost!
> —June 9, 2001, following European trip
>
> The Situation
>
> Things will not be necessarily continuous.
> The fact that they are something other than perfectly continuous
> Ought not to be characterized as a pause.
> There will be some things that people will see.
> There will be some things that people won't see.
> And life goes on.
> —Oct. 12, 2001, Department of Defense news briefing
>
> Clarity
>
> I think what you'll find,
> I think what you'll find is,
> Whatever it is we do substantively,
> There will be near-perfect clarity
> As to what it is.
> And it will be known,
> And it will be known to the Congress,
> And it will be known to you,
> Probably before we decide it,
> But it will be known.
> —Feb. 28, 2003, Department of Defense briefing
>
> http://www.slate.com/id/2081042/
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2:28 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> regarding claims about global warming: are they really liars? Or
>>
>> > mere bullshitters?
>>
>> A bit of both probably.  Even the most egregious departures from truth
>> can, and often are, rationalized.  Here's my personal favorite.
>>
>> "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the--if he--if
>> 'is' means is and never has been, that is not--that is one thing. If
>> it means there is none, that was a completely true statement....Now,
>> if someone had asked me on that day, are you having any kind of sexual
>> relations with Ms. Lewinsky, that is, asked me a question in the
>> present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely
>> true."
>>
>> Chutzpah, ladies and gentlemen, has no limits.
>>
>> -Don
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Alan Wostenberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > On Nov 29, 7:58 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> We can bleat forever about the nature of truth.  I generally prefer a
>> >> limited notion of truth and honesty against lies and deception.
>>
>> > "Truth" says Aristotle, "is saying of what is that it is, and of what
>> > is not that it is not".  A liar, according to Mortimer Adler, is one
>> > who willfully displaces his ontological predicates: he says of what is
>> > that it is not, or of what is not that it is.  You say people lie and
>> > deceive about "global warming". The first thing to know about lying is
>> > that it is not the same as speaking falsehood. The liar knows he's
>> > lying. This means a) he knows the truth b) he speaks otherwise
>>
>> > The the liar, like the honest man, respects the truth. The liar knows
>> > he is lying. This is in stark contrast to the bullshitter 
>> > (http://tr.im/GcDf).
>> > Now, regarding claims about global warming: are they really liars? Or
>> > mere bullshitters?
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