I learned a little Spanish and French: And I agree it does not have anything what we are talking about to do with raiscm. I have seen so many changes in our society. It seem like a different country here and people did not adjust well to such fast changes and exceptance of whole neighborhoods which is totally Espanic or Thai. Here in the US this happen fast and people did not adjust well..There is more people from other countries now that own the bussiness and so fourth..What you are talking about has happen here in America..it has been like this for a few years...I tell you these things because it was not easy for quite a few. The Neighborhood I grew up in is now totally Espanic..If I wanted to go back and live in that neighborhood I probably would not be able to live their and be excepted..what is the word it has happened here in America what you talk about. It is just not known to much world wide It is how it has been done..The story I told you about the hospital was this very reason. They are hiring unqulified people because they have gotten help,such as work programs which sets them in houseing and work. America is still in adjustment. It is issues here that have been created because of the way the processed had been done. Here in the towns of America it is this way The Hispanics in one area,the blacks have there areas and the oreintals have their area,in most states. This is the way it is. I tell Germany this be very concern and aware of these issues if you do not have them..But this is what America has adjusted to, and still adjusting. And the rich just went and built in new areas(truth)
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > I happen to speak Spanish fairly well and I don't have a problem with > learning another language when circumstances dictate the need. When I > was in retail I learned some Japanese, Italian, bits of German and any > other language that reflected the customer base. Fact is that I have > Hispanic friends that don't speak Spanish. The problem here is not as > much the inability as much as the "attitude" which is prevalent > amongst this particular race, but again this is not a race issue and > this is not a race baiting thread. > Where does it end? Does a country simply change in nature because the > population sways towards a dominant position. Are future wars going > to be based upon the speed of reproduction of a race? Will Germany no > longer be Germany when the population is overtaken by immigrants? > Those that don't want to address this issue simply exacerbate it with > the complacency position. > > On Dec 6, 7:52 pm, dj Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote: > > I got off track I was thinking of something else..yes I agree if it > English > > speaking country than it should be in English..it should be that > simple..If > > I went to another country than I would get a book and learn a little bit > of > > there language..when I get on the phone it is spainish that comes on > first > > now..instead of English ...English is second...I recieved a bill and it > was > > in spanish..I called them at the hospital..and it was a spainish woman I > was > > speaking too could hardley understand her and this was a private > > hospital..(they should hire people who can speak clear)for these > > positions....for all...well I proceeded to tell her this must not be my > bill > > because it was in spanish and it was to much..she still did not > understand > > me..so it took me thrity-minutes of my time to tell her I was not > > spanish..so how could this be my bill? ...well yes they sent me another > one > > and this time it was in English..and yes it was my bill and I had to pay > a > > outrageous bill..(beside the point) and when I had customers some was > from > > mexico and could not speak english and I commucated with them and I was > good > > at it...but many had what should we say a dispostion..and because I was > good > > at what I did ..I was the choosen one to help these people...I do ok > untill > > they are not even a citizen and complain..when you are being perfect in > > being polite and taking more time with these customers because of the > > language barrier...I could go on but I wont.. > > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 5:18 PM, dj Briscoe <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > > > What do you mean on the psychological level? I think when you take > overload > > > to carry other countries and it breaks you ...Then you need to look at > > > this..Thank You Slip for being concern..This is out of my uhmm ..I do > not > > > know the answers are solutions to help on this..and you see what is > strange > > > is Mexico started making US have Passports just recent and I do not > > > understand this..It could be for more border controll also...but I dont > know > > > what you mean on psychological level please give me some examples.. > > > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> I might add that this is NOT a Race Issue but simply a real issue > > >> concerning immigration and the special treatment toward a specific > > >> segment of society. If it were any other culture the "Issue" would > > >> remain the same. The fact that this is issue is directed towards the > > >> Hispanic community is entirely "Coincidental" and not any intentional > > >> attack upon a culture/race. The signs in question are obviously > > >> English/Spanish. If the issue were confined to border towns it would > > >> be a different story and one of minimal consequence. However, when > > >> you have states in the far northern tier of the country having to > > >> expend much needed tax revenue on new signage to accommodate > > >> immigrants, it becomes an issue worth looking at. > > >> The issue is the "why" of it. Immigrants have never had such > > >> accommodation, not the Polish, Irish, German, Italian, Jewish or any > > >> other immigrants. Why is this happening? > > >> If you think about it, this could be a psychological issue on the > > >> social level and not just an economic issue on the corporate/ > > >> government level. > > > > >> On Dec 6, 10:30 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > Overall it is catering to a specific immigrant culture. > > > > >> > There is a huge billboard down the highway from me which features a > > >> > Wells Fargo ad entirely in Spanish so I don't see that as being > > >> > encouraging at all to the assimilation process. In fact I > personally > > >> > feel that it is telling me that I'm not that important anymore as a > > >> > customer. It's not just in City Offices that this signage issue is > > >> > taking place, it is happening everywhere you go. > > >> > I personally feel the Spanish portion of the signs should be covered > > >> > up with a bumper sticker that reads. "Aprenda Inglese". The > > >> > ridiculous signs are the ones like "telephone/telephono" > > >> > What is the difference between those too words? Are people that > > >> > stupid that they don't know what the word telephone means? > > > > >> > I'm certainly not saying they should leave the country as in the > link, > > >> > but my issue is that they should take the time to learn the language > > >> > of the country to which they emigrated. Would it make sense for > > >> > millions of English speaking people to emigrate to a foreign > country, > > >> > eg; Germany, and have them produce new signage on tax dollars to > > >> > accommodate our refusal to learn the German language? > > > > >> >http://www.wciv.com/news/stories/0508/522475.html > > > > >> > Does it really take a sign for someone to realize crossing a highway > > >> > is dangerous? Should we change "ALL" the stop signs in the country > to > > >> > read "STOP/PARADA? Next thing you know some Iraqi will get killed > > >> > driving through the intersection opening the way for a lawsuit > against > > >> > the city for not providing signs in the Arabic language. > > > > >> > The bridges are a good idea because they serve "everyone" unlike the > > >> > signs that only serve "Hispanics". That is not fair to all the > other > > >> > "non English speaking" immigrants that come here from "other" > > >> > countries. Why special treatment of Hispanics? > > > > >> > They move here, live eat and work here, and raise families here. I > > >> > think it is a blatant unwillingness to change. > > > > >> >http://www.my3cents.com/showReview.cgi?id=31927 > > > > >> > It really seems to me that it is Not a matter of being Politically > > >> > correct but more a matter of insult and discrimination against "ALL" > > >> > other immigrants to this country. Why are we catering to "Only" the > > >> > Hispanic population and why are they unwilling to learn English? > > > > >> > Did anyone ever consider how difficult it is getting for everyone > else > > >> > to have to deal with this double language issue? I personally don't > > >> > know any Hispanics that don't speak English so if they can do it why > > >> > not the rest? > > > > >> -- > > > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > >> ""Minds Eye"" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > <minds-eye%[email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > > > > >> . > > >> For more options, visit this group at > > >>http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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