And also as far as the Nature of America it has changed,changed,changed. It is not the same. And I glad you made this Thread it is a good point and a very clear way to put it. It would like me going over to china and changing their nature to cowboys and Indians..
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:19 PM, dj Briscoe <[email protected]>wrote: > I learned a little Spanish and French: And I agree it does not have > anything what we are talking about to do with raiscm. I have seen so many > changes in our society. It seem like a different country here and people > did not adjust well to such fast changes and exceptance of whole > neighborhoods which is totally Espanic or Thai. Here in the US this happen > fast and people did not adjust well..There is more people from other > countries now that own the bussiness and so fourth..What you are talking > about has happen here in America..it has been like this for a few years...I > tell you these things because it was not easy for quite a few. > The Neighborhood I grew up in is now totally Espanic..If I wanted to go > back and live in that neighborhood I probably would not be able to live > their and be excepted..what is the word it has happened here in America what > you talk about. It is just not known to much world wide > It is how it has been done..The story I told you about the hospital was > this very reason. > They are hiring unqulified people because they have gotten help,such as > work programs which sets them in houseing and work. America is still in > adjustment. It is issues here that have been created because of the way the > processed had been done. Here in the towns of > America it is this way The Hispanics in one area,the blacks have there > areas and the oreintals have their area,in most states. This is the way it > is. I tell Germany this be very concern and aware of these issues if you do > not have them..But this is what America has adjusted to, and still > adjusting. And the rich just went and built in new areas(truth) > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I happen to speak Spanish fairly well and I don't have a problem with >> learning another language when circumstances dictate the need. When I >> was in retail I learned some Japanese, Italian, bits of German and any >> other language that reflected the customer base. Fact is that I have >> Hispanic friends that don't speak Spanish. The problem here is not as >> much the inability as much as the "attitude" which is prevalent >> amongst this particular race, but again this is not a race issue and >> this is not a race baiting thread. >> Where does it end? Does a country simply change in nature because the >> population sways towards a dominant position. Are future wars going >> to be based upon the speed of reproduction of a race? Will Germany no >> longer be Germany when the population is overtaken by immigrants? >> Those that don't want to address this issue simply exacerbate it with >> the complacency position. >> >> On Dec 6, 7:52 pm, dj Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I got off track I was thinking of something else..yes I agree if it >> English >> > speaking country than it should be in English..it should be that >> simple..If >> > I went to another country than I would get a book and learn a little bit >> of >> > there language..when I get on the phone it is spainish that comes on >> first >> > now..instead of English ...English is second...I recieved a bill and it >> was >> > in spanish..I called them at the hospital..and it was a spainish woman I >> was >> > speaking too could hardley understand her and this was a private >> > hospital..(they should hire people who can speak clear)for these >> > positions....for all...well I proceeded to tell her this must not be my >> bill >> > because it was in spanish and it was to much..she still did not >> understand >> > me..so it took me thrity-minutes of my time to tell her I was not >> > spanish..so how could this be my bill? ...well yes they sent me another >> one >> > and this time it was in English..and yes it was my bill and I had to pay >> a >> > outrageous bill..(beside the point) and when I had customers some was >> from >> > mexico and could not speak english and I commucated with them and I was >> good >> > at it...but many had what should we say a dispostion..and because I was >> good >> > at what I did ..I was the choosen one to help these people...I do ok >> untill >> > they are not even a citizen and complain..when you are being perfect in >> > being polite and taking more time with these customers because of the >> > language barrier...I could go on but I wont.. >> > >> > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 5:18 PM, dj Briscoe < >> [email protected]>wrote: >> > >> > > What do you mean on the psychological level? I think when you take >> overload >> > > to carry other countries and it breaks you ...Then you need to look at >> > > this..Thank You Slip for being concern..This is out of my uhmm ..I do >> not >> > > know the answers are solutions to help on this..and you see what is >> strange >> > > is Mexico started making US have Passports just recent and I do not >> > > understand this..It could be for more border controll also...but I >> dont know >> > > what you mean on psychological level please give me some examples.. >> > >> > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > >> I might add that this is NOT a Race Issue but simply a real issue >> > >> concerning immigration and the special treatment toward a specific >> > >> segment of society. If it were any other culture the "Issue" would >> > >> remain the same. The fact that this is issue is directed towards the >> > >> Hispanic community is entirely "Coincidental" and not any intentional >> > >> attack upon a culture/race. The signs in question are obviously >> > >> English/Spanish. If the issue were confined to border towns it would >> > >> be a different story and one of minimal consequence. However, when >> > >> you have states in the far northern tier of the country having to >> > >> expend much needed tax revenue on new signage to accommodate >> > >> immigrants, it becomes an issue worth looking at. >> > >> The issue is the "why" of it. Immigrants have never had such >> > >> accommodation, not the Polish, Irish, German, Italian, Jewish or any >> > >> other immigrants. Why is this happening? >> > >> If you think about it, this could be a psychological issue on the >> > >> social level and not just an economic issue on the corporate/ >> > >> government level. >> > >> > >> On Dec 6, 10:30 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > Overall it is catering to a specific immigrant culture. >> > >> > >> > There is a huge billboard down the highway from me which features a >> > >> > Wells Fargo ad entirely in Spanish so I don't see that as being >> > >> > encouraging at all to the assimilation process. In fact I >> personally >> > >> > feel that it is telling me that I'm not that important anymore as a >> > >> > customer. It's not just in City Offices that this signage issue is >> > >> > taking place, it is happening everywhere you go. >> > >> > I personally feel the Spanish portion of the signs should be >> covered >> > >> > up with a bumper sticker that reads. "Aprenda Inglese". The >> > >> > ridiculous signs are the ones like "telephone/telephono" >> > >> > What is the difference between those too words? Are people that >> > >> > stupid that they don't know what the word telephone means? >> > >> > >> > I'm certainly not saying they should leave the country as in the >> link, >> > >> > but my issue is that they should take the time to learn the >> language >> > >> > of the country to which they emigrated. Would it make sense for >> > >> > millions of English speaking people to emigrate to a foreign >> country, >> > >> > eg; Germany, and have them produce new signage on tax dollars to >> > >> > accommodate our refusal to learn the German language? >> > >> > >> >http://www.wciv.com/news/stories/0508/522475.html >> > >> > >> > Does it really take a sign for someone to realize crossing a >> highway >> > >> > is dangerous? Should we change "ALL" the stop signs in the country >> to >> > >> > read "STOP/PARADA? Next thing you know some Iraqi will get killed >> > >> > driving through the intersection opening the way for a lawsuit >> against >> > >> > the city for not providing signs in the Arabic language. >> > >> > >> > The bridges are a good idea because they serve "everyone" unlike >> the >> > >> > signs that only serve "Hispanics". That is not fair to all the >> other >> > >> > "non English speaking" immigrants that come here from "other" >> > >> > countries. Why special treatment of Hispanics? >> > >> > >> > They move here, live eat and work here, and raise families here. I >> > >> > think it is a blatant unwillingness to change. >> > >> > >> >http://www.my3cents.com/showReview.cgi?id=31927 >> > >> > >> > It really seems to me that it is Not a matter of being Politically >> > >> > correct but more a matter of insult and discrimination against >> "ALL" >> > >> > other immigrants to this country. Why are we catering to "Only" >> the >> > >> > Hispanic population and why are they unwilling to learn English? >> > >> > >> > Did anyone ever consider how difficult it is getting for everyone >> else >> > >> > to have to deal with this double language issue? 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