Ah well, when we are discussing how the muslims are the New Jews, it
is exactly the waiting point that we would disagree with.

On 11 Dez., 14:58, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 11 Dec, 07:04, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Religion is still driving it's wedge into the world.  I'm beginning to
> > become very wary of the intent of Muslim Immigrants.  Little seeds are
> > being planted around the world and Muslim populations are growing.
> > With the shootings by Muslim Hasan in Fort Hood Texas and now the
> > Arrest of 5 Muslim teenagers in Pakistan who supposedly are American,
> > I reject the idea that they were ever American, I'm suspect that
> > Muslims around the world are simply carrying out a long term
> > infiltration tactic without any desire for citizenship but only for
> > the goal of the Muslim world.  It may take 50 more years but by then
> > the Muslim population will be very imposing.
> > What do you think of all this Muslim turmoil around the world?  I know
> > it's hard to be politically correct and non judgmental but history is
> > littered with attempts at world domination.  Truth is I'm beginning to
> > get nervous and simply do not trust Muslims and wonder about their
> > true motive.  Is it just paranoia, I don't think so.
>
> Islam IS the fastest growing faith and has been for quite some time.
> This is, mostly, due to the fact that Muslims have Muslim children
> (funnily enough) and the growth rate is more down to general
> population growth than conversion rates; that said, there are more and
> more converts as well.  So why, then, is that? [that's not a
> rhetorical question but an invitation to fully investigate Islam for
> yourself to discover what there is about it that might attract people
> TO it.]
> What is it about Islam that worries you?  The religion itself does not
> promote terrorism, but change through dialogue, so the 'terrorists'
> aren't REALLY 'true Muslims'--they are apostates who have been led
> astray--they are as brainwashed as any follower of Jim Jones or David
> Koresh.  Don't be afraid of Muslims--they are simply people who
> acknowledge that it is God that runs the show here on Earth (and, as
> far as I can tell, that is a correct belief!).  Rather, be afraid of
> fundamentalism of any variety, for it is fundamentalism--that branch
> of any faith that says, "We're correct and everyone else needs to die
> so that only those that think correctly are left."  That was never the
> premiss of Islam, as the Qur'an itself states that religion should not
>
 be forced on anyone.  These fundamentalists feed on our fears.  So,
> you're playing into their hands with your mistrust of Muslims, as they
> are, for the vast majority, just like everyone else on the planet--
> trying to just get through another day.  Take each one as they present
> themselves to you.  If you want to react in a Christian fashion
> towards them, then that would be: Judge not, lest ye be judged.
> Muslims worship God by being mindful of Him in many ways throughout
> the day, and Jesus said that loving God was the greatest commandment.
> So they follow that teaching--probably beter than most Westerners who
> consider themseles Chhristian.  The second greates commandment
> (according to Jesus) was "tolove yoour neighbour as yourself".  But
> you are mistrusting/distrusting people and the only thing you may know
> about them is that they are Muslim.  How fair is that?
> It's my belief that God will judge us by certain standards.  Some of
> those standards we set ourselves.  That is, he will judge us as fairly
> as we have judged others.  In that way, injustice can always be
> redressed in the Hereafter.  This life is only a test for an eternal
> existence.  Don't let the fundamentalists of ANY faith turn you
> against other believers of that faith who are NOT fundamentalists.  It
> could be a dangerous practice; after all, Jesus warned: judge not,
> lest ye be judged (similarly).  Don't play into the hands of the
> fundamentalists by fearing and mis/distrusting Muslims, as that is
> what they hope will be te ddivisive reaction that grants them the
> grounds for claiming general bias.
> I encounter Muslims on a daily basis.  At work, at the local shop, in
> taxis, etc.  And NONE of them have ever acted in a way that I would
> consider problematic.  What makes ME nervous is people taking a
> dislike to people they don't know simply because they are different--
> when, really, we are ALL different; because it's THAT attitude that
> both Christian and Muslim fundamentalists are hoping will bring us to
> the all-glorious Armageddon that they both think they'll win.  They
> can't BOTH be right; but, they could both be wrong, in that there ARE
> no winners of Armageddon.
>
> If, as you are tending towards, you think that Muslims will out-number
> the rest of the population in the foreseeable future, then that will
> change the world.  But that doesn't, of necessity, mean that that
> change would be bad.  It all comes down to implementation.  And there
> are Islamic prophecies that indicate that, before Islam does become
> the predominant religion on Earth, it will be 'set back onto the
> straight path' by a 'Clarifier', the Mahdi, or Al-Qa'im.  Muslims
> await this individual because theyknow thatt there are correctins (tto
> the practices of the faith) that need to be made (the abolition of
> female circumcision throughout Islamic Africa would be the first thing
> that leaps out in my mind...but there is a longer list).  So wait WITH
> them and watch out FOR him, for it is just THAT kind of individual
> that needs to come onto the world scene fairly soon, as the numbers,
> as you point out, are nearing the mark.
>
> PS  'Chanukkah Tovah' for all the Jewish readers out there!!
>
> > Excerpt:
> > The citizens o the Unittd Staates and Canada, as well as many within
> > various echelons of law enforcement, might be surprised to learn that
> > active paramilitary training of Islamic terrorists, who are focused on
> > bringing jihad or holy war into America on a large scale, are
> > currently operating in the United States and Canada. In fact, they
> > have existed inside North America since at least 1980.
>
> >http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/cover061107h.htm
>
> > The Islamic "jihadist" Army in our Midst
> > The most astute researchers of Islamic terrorist activities might
> > elieve tthat the so-called "Virginia jihad network," often referred to
> > as the "paintball jihad network," was the first paramilitary training
> > of its kind in America. The "paintball jihad network" consisted of
> > nearly a dozen Muslim men, including Randall "Ismail" Royer, an
> > American convert to Islam and former official of the Council on
> > American Islamic Relation (CAIIR), who honed their combat skills
> > through the use of paintball gun exercises with other like-minded
> > Muslims, according to the federal indictment and his subsequent
> > conviction. Others might cite the case of Ernest James UJAAMA, a/k/a
> > Bilal AHMED, (a Muslim convert born James Earnest Thompson), who,
> > according to court documents, attempted to et upp an Afghanistan-style
> > terrorist training camp near Bly, Oregon in 1999 as a precursor to
> > physical jihad training in America.

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