On Jan 14, 8:15 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:

> As human
> beings, ‘we’ are so much more than rational musings and analytical
> thinking. [...] For any sort of knowing to be full
> and complete, to repeat, no aspect of being can be left out.

I agree.

In a thread at the BBC Radio 4 message boards (I'm 'angusrod'), I was
deep in the middle of arguing about Richard Dawkins and so on, and we
appeared to be approaching some area of /possible/ agreement, when the
thread (as so often happens at those message boards) was arbitrarily
cut short.

I had just been offering my opinions of an article by Sam Harris,
"Killing the Buddha", in a Buddhist online magazine.  See particularly
my messages #68 (bad typo corrected in #69) and #79, in the thread,
"Richard Dawkins' Fundamentalism" referenced below (along with the Sam
Harris article).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbradio4/F2766774?thread=7206447
"Richard Dawkins' Fundamentalism"

http://www.shambhalasun.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2903&Itemid=244
Sam Harris, "Killing the Buddha"

Have you (or has anyone else here) any thoughts to offer on what I
said in message #79 of that thread about a "non-dogmatic progressive
understanding of the mind" perhaps necessarily resembling a religion,
and certainly not necessarily resembling a science?

The whole thread had been started by a Buddhist, who told me (in
message #40) that Buddhism was in fact just such an understanding as I
had been looking for.

(Anyone foolish enough to read the whole thread will learn more about
me than anyone probably needs to know! But at least they will then
know just what sort of fool has just joined this forum!)

> As you imply Neil,
> science is not objective …all protestations aside. And, ‘it’ is but
> one aspect of consciousness and in no way is ‘outside’ nor separate
> from same.

How do you answer Dr. Johnson's "I refute it thus!"? (Kicking a
stone.)
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