Ordinarily I wouldn't have brought out a dictionary, but two
statements were made about a definition.
Statements:
a) The true definition of that word is not the definition of that
word.
b) This completely unrelated definition is the real definition of that
word.

If I were to state that beef is not really the flesh of an animal and
then I assert that it is instead an iron and nickel alloy, I would
expect a dictionary definition to be introduced. She didn't simply try
to " approaches words in our own unique way" she told someone that
used the word correctly that they were wrong and introduced a
completely unrelated and irrelevant definition.

On Jan 16, 9:24 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
> It is all too common to resort to dictionaries in groups like this…it
> happens a lot here too. However, to keep away from less productive
> chatter, as apparently irrational as it may appear, often we just
> accept that each of us  and do
> our best to empathize with others and how they use the language too.
>
> This in no way is meant to suggest that apparently improper use of
> terms should not be pointed out…I think they should. It’s more to
> point out what is a deeper goal than just reading dictionaries. The
> truth is that almost all words have countless meanings and often lead
> to misunderstandings…when used by one in a specific way and heard by
> another as a different definition.
>
> I just attempt to decode…read between the lines…etc. doing my best at
> getting to the ‘heart of the matter’…that which in fact is intended
> rather than arguing about term usage. But, that is only me.
>
> On Jan 16, 7:34 pm, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > And regardless has absolutely nothing to do with love without
> > expectations of a return.
>
> > On Jan 16, 6:54 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Detachment is also used in love relationships and is very much a part
> > > of al-anon tactics when dealing with a drunk or druggie.
>
> > > On Jan 16, 4:35 pm, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > That is not detachment.
>
> > > > de·tach·ment  (d-tchmnt)
> > > > n.
> > > > 1. The act or process of disconnecting or detaching; separation.
> > > > 2. The state of being separate or detached.
> > > > 3. Indifference to or remoteness from the concerns of others;
> > > > aloofness: preserved a chilly detachment in his relations with the
> > > > family.
> > > > 4. Absence of prejudice or bias; disinterest: strove to maintain her
> > > > professional detachment in the case.
> > > > 5.
> > > > a. The dispatch of a military unit, such as troops or ships, from a
> > > > larger body for a special duty or mission.
> > > > b. The unit so dispatched.
> > > > c. A permanent unit, usually smaller than a platoon, organized for
> > > > special duties.
>
> > > > If you notice, indifference is indeed a part of detachment when
> > > > involving relationships, not love.
>
> > > > On Jan 16, 2:19 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Detachment is not indifference. Detachment is love without expecting
> > > > > anything in return and without self importance
>
> > > > > On Jan 16, 12:24 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > This is what you do - fair enough for now.
>
> > > > > > I don't believe that ignorance is a bliss, though.
>
> > > > > > On 16 Jan., 17:56, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I don't worry about it.
>
> > > > > > > On Jan 16, 10:41 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > I wouldn't know but found articlestree.com on the wiki site and 
> > > > > > > > went
> > > > > > > > there to discover the YouTube issue.
>
> > > > > > > > I think internet piracy and infringement is going to take place
> > > > > > > > because we are in International waters where anything goes and
> > > > > > > > establishing liability, initiating prosecution procedures that
> > > > > > > > culminate to a satisfactory end are highly unlikely.  Its not 
> > > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > > different from the phishing scams originating out of foreign
> > > > > > > > countries.  What are we to do about someone in Nigeria pirating 
> > > > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > work, zilch!
>
> > > > > > > > On Jan 16, 8:59 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > The above citation was (as referenced parenthetically) from 
> > > > > > > > > the last
> > > > > > > > > thread on the subject, and the words were gruff's, not mine, 
> > > > > > > > > and I am
> > > > > > > > > not sure where he got the legal sitings.
>
> > > > > > > > > I do not use any comments when a participant has requested 
> > > > > > > > > that I do
> > > > > > > > > not.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jan 16, 8:34 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > The unauthorized use of text content can be a form of 
> > > > > > > > > > copyright
> > > > > > > > > > infringement. It is common on the world wide web for text 
> > > > > > > > > > to be copied
> > > > > > > > > > from one site to another without consent of the author. 
> > > > > > > > > > Roberta Beach
> > > > > > > > > > Jacobson criticizes the misappropriation of writers' work 
> > > > > > > > > > by websites
> > > > > > > > > > in her article Copyrights and Wrongs. This article was 
> > > > > > > > > > added to
> > > > > > > > > > articlestree.com[8] on November 27, 2001; ironically, it 
> > > > > > > > > > has since
> > > > > > > > > > been copied to hundreds of websites,[9] many of them 
> > > > > > > > > > claiming
> > > > > > > > > > copyright over the work or charging money to access it.
>
> > > > > > > > > > 8 ^ Jacobson, Roberta Beach (2001-11-27). "Copyrights and 
> > > > > > > > > > Wrongs".www.articlestree.com.http://www.articlestree.com/copywriting/copyrigh.......
> > > > > > > > > > Retrieved 2007-04-07.
> > > > > > > > > > 9 ^ "Results 1 - 10 of about 371 for "Roberta Beach 
> > > > > > > > > > Jacobson"
> > > > > > > > > > "Copyrights and 
> > > > > > > > > > Wrongs"".www.google.com.http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Roberta+Beach+Jacobs.......
> > > > > > > > > > Retrieved 2007-04-07.
>
> > > > > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement#Text
>
> > > > > > > > > > It wasn't an intention to establish lawsuit but merely a 
> > > > > > > > > > cease and
> > > > > > > > > > desist declaration.  "Potentially" a compilation of copied 
> > > > > > > > > > texts can
> > > > > > > > > > form a published work with all copyright reservations 
> > > > > > > > > > thereby
> > > > > > > > > > rendering it as having monetary value.  You could easily 
> > > > > > > > > > compile (not
> > > > > > > > > > implying intent) the copied ME posts and put together any 
> > > > > > > > > > form of
> > > > > > > > > > marketable material.  Establishing reserved rights to my 
> > > > > > > > > > personal work
> > > > > > > > > > gives me the opportunity to compile my own work for 
> > > > > > > > > > integration within
> > > > > > > > > > another body of material, therefore the work does have 
> > > > > > > > > > monetary value
> > > > > > > > > > when considering authorship aside from the what you have 
> > > > > > > > > > labeled as a
> > > > > > > > > > diminutive value of personal ego.  The laws are complex and 
> > > > > > > > > > subject to
> > > > > > > > > > a myriad of interpretations adding to the difficulty of 
> > > > > > > > > > establishing
> > > > > > > > > > laws concerning electronic information and the copying and 
> > > > > > > > > > exchange of
> > > > > > > > > > such information.  Who would buy books if they were just so 
> > > > > > > > > > easy to
> > > > > > > > > > copy from some Internet site?  This is the crux of the 
> > > > > > > > > > matter.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Consider YouTube's use of and distribution of material and 
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > implications. (scroll down for the article)
>
> > > > > > > > > >http://www.articlestree.com/Legal/youtube-could-be-liable-for-copyrig...
>
> > > > > > > > > > Again it is simply a cease and desist declaration not a 
> > > > > > > > > > prelude to
> > > > > > > > > > legal remedies for infringement nor is it a complaint as 
> > > > > > > > > > perceived by
> > > > > > > > > > Twirlip in the post above.  I think you understand that.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jan 16, 6:54 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > To be completely accurate, I began at Minds Eye asking 
> > > > > > > > > > > individuals for
> > > > > > > > > > > permission, was told by the Mods that was not necessary 
> > > > > > > > > > > because the
> > > > > > > > > > > posts here were public domain, so stopped.  Sometime 
> > > > > > > > > > > later, the public
> > > > > > > > > > > domain issue was challenged, and copyright/fair use laws 
> > > > > > > > > > > concerning
> > > > > > > > > > > cross posting and copying the Minds Eye posts were 
> > > > > > > > > > > discussed again.
> > > > > > > > > > > Truth is, there are many sites that pull these 
> > > > > > > > > > > discussions with an rss
> > > > > > > > > > > feed and are used only for advertising.  My blog is 
> > > > > > > > > > > different than
> > > > > > > > > > > that, I make no money from it, and use it to create 
> > > > > > > > > > > discussion and
> > > > > > > > > > > develop ideas.  I change fictitious names to real names 
> > > > > > > > > > > when I know
> > > > > > > > > > > them with permission and in respect because I think we 
> > > > > > > > > > > are all adults
> > > > > > > > > > > with adult names in the discussions.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, Twirlip, for your permission.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Applicable fair use and copyright law (taken from our 
> > > > > > > > > > > last discussion
> > > > > > > > > > > as referenced by the members here - thanks again)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > 17 USC Sec. 102 holds your answer.  TITLE 17 - 
> > > > > > > > > > > COPYRIGHTS, CHAPTER 1
> > > > > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > > > SUBJECT MATTER AND SCOPE OF COPYRIGHT, Sec. 102. Subject 
> > > > > > > > > > > matter of
> > > > > > > > > > > copyright: In general
> > > > > > > > > > >     (a) Copyright protection subsists, in accordance with 
> > > > > > > > > > > this title,
> > > > > > > > > > >     in original works of authorship fixed in any tangible 
> > > > > > > > > > > medium of
> > > > > > > > > > >     expression, now known or later developed, from which 
> > > > > > > > > > > they can be
> > > > > > > > > > >     perceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated, 
> > > > > > > > > > > either directly
> > > > > > > > > > >     or with the aid of a machine or device. Works of 
> > > > > > > > > > > authorship
> > > > > > > > > > > include
> > > > > > > > > > >     the following categories:
> > > > > > > > > > >         (1) literary works;
> > > > > > > > > > >         (2) musical works, including any accompanying 
> > > > > > > > > > > words;
> > > > > > > > > > >         (3) dramatic works, including any accompanying 
> > > > > > > > > > > music;
> > > > > > > > > > >         (4) pantomimes and choreographic works;
> > > > > > > > > > >         (5) pictorial, graphic, and sculptural works;
> > > > > > > > > > >         (6) motion pictures and other audiovisual works;
> > > > > > > > > > >         (7) sound recordings; and
> > > > > > > > > > >         (8) architectural works.
> > > > > > > > > > > This is the raw law.  Let me point you 
> > > > > > > > > > > tohttp://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/17C1.txt
> > > > > > > > > > > which along with the above law also has the historical 
> > > > > > > > > > > and revision
> > > > > > > > > > > notes which describe what the law is intended to 
> > > > > > > > > > > encompass and how it
> > > > > > > > > > > should be interpreted.
> > > > > > > > > > > n top of the above is what you can do if the copyright of 
> > > > > > > > > > > something
> > > > > > > > > > > of which you have been the original author is violated -- 
> > > > > > > > > > > about all
> > > > > > > > > > > you can do is send them a cease and desist order, which 
> > > > > > > > > > > if they
> > > > > > > > > > > snubbed you could go
>
> ...
>
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