Gabby, I'll make an exception and respond to this delicious piece of
malice and nastiness from you !

On Jan 18, 3:39 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
> May I kindly ask you to stop sulking and stomping!?

Why ?  What is it to you, if Molly sulks or stomps, though I saw no
sign of her doing so. She sure seemed defensive, but that seems
natural considering the nature of alleged charge one or two people
have brought against her. I suppose, everyone defends one's honour.
Or, don't you, Gabs ?

> One Vam is enough.

Wow !  How are you certain that just because you are satisfied with
one Vam, others would too ?  I myself could do with a million more. I
also admit, there might be many who'd not tolerate even one - tenth
Vam !

> And if you don't see any reason to argue I would like to refer you to
> Ian's posting guidelines which demand the opposite.

Please quote exactly what you are talking about : What does Ian's
posting guidelines say ?

> Molly, I wish you all the money in the world if that makes you sleep
> better at night.

I'm sure Molly can do without your ( malicious ) wishes, Gabs !  Save
the dishonest manners for yourself and yours.

> But for the future, please refrain from any "when I succeeded to let go, 
> money came to me on miraculous ways" or something like this.

I want more of the same things from Molly, Gabs. It sure shores me
up !  You are free not to read them.


> On 17 Jan., 15:40, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > To be perfectly clear, and as I have said many times before, my
> > services are not sold from the blog, I have never had a referal or
> > book sale directly related to the blog, and from the beginning of my
> > participation in ME (2007), although all folks here may not recall,
> > some seem to,others don't, I openly asked and individually asked for
> > permission to use the comments here.  The blog itself is a means to
> > explore ideas and engage dialogue on meaningful concepts.  I cross
> > posts the threads in various groups across the web, a perfectly
> > acceptable practice on the internet.  Anyone ever expressing
> > resistance, including gabbydot, is no longer included on the blog,
> > their wishes respected.
>
> > As there is much contentiousness in this tread about anything posted
> > it seems, I will check out now.  Thanks to all for your support, I
> > don't see any reason to argue.
>
> > On Jan 17, 8:21 am, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > No, Allan, I am still disagreeing with you. The opera is not about
> > > being right or left but about me myself and I. Yet the great honour
> > > that you feel attracted to is directly linked to the ME ME ME.
>
> > > You're right, Molly never directly wronged any ME member. Just like
> > > it's not wrong to sell your sweets with a big fat sticker saying "0%
> > > fat!". I didn't know what she was doing until her practice became a
> > > public issue here. Only then I realized that she published articles
> > > here to gather selected content that she would publish under her own
> > > blog name. The image that the blog creates, is of course of monetary
> > > value when it comes to selling her own services.
>
> > > I have learned to become more care careful about the context in which
> > > I set my data. You will find a blank space behind my educational
> > > background on facebook, for example. MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :-)
>
> > > On 17 Jan., 12:36, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > SD
> > > > Molly has never wronged any member of ME to my knowledge.  ME is about
> > > > sharing ideas and concepts (I know some members don't think so) ,, and 
> > > > if
> > > > you put it up in the group  well all I can say is good luck in court. I 
> > > > have
> > > > read you violating the copyright of others..
>
> > > > Personally if some one expands on some of my thoughts it is a great 
> > > > honour
> > > > to have contributed to society. I think there is far to much of the 
> > > > great
> > > > right wing republican opera being sung... (Spraying throat preparing to
> > > > sing..)  me, me, me, ME, ME, MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
> > > > Allan
>
> > > > On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > I wouldn't know but found articlestree.com on the wiki site and went
> > > > > there to discover the YouTube issue.
>
> > > > > I think internet piracy and infringement is going to take place
> > > > > because we are in International waters where anything goes and
> > > > > establishing liability, initiating prosecution procedures that
> > > > > culminate to a satisfactory end are highly unlikely.  Its not much
> > > > > different from the phishing scams originating out of foreign
> > > > > countries.  What are we to do about someone in Nigeria pirating our
> > > > > work, zilch!
>
> > > > > On Jan 16, 8:59 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > The above citation was (as referenced parenthetically) from the last
> > > > > > thread on the subject, and the words were gruff's, not mine, and I 
> > > > > > am
> > > > > > not sure where he got the legal sitings.
>
> > > > > > I do not use any comments when a participant has requested that I do
> > > > > > not.
>
> > > > > > On Jan 16, 8:34 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > The unauthorized use of text content can be a form of copyright
> > > > > > > infringement. It is common on the world wide web for text to be 
> > > > > > > copied
> > > > > > > from one site to another without consent of the author. Roberta 
> > > > > > > Beach
> > > > > > > Jacobson criticizes the misappropriation of writers' work by 
> > > > > > > websites
> > > > > > > in her article Copyrights and Wrongs. This article was added to
> > > > > > > articlestree.com[8] on November 27, 2001; ironically, it has since
> > > > > > > been copied to hundreds of websites,[9] many of them claiming
> > > > > > > copyright over the work or charging money to access it.
>
> > > > > > > 8 ^ Jacobson, Roberta Beach (2001-11-27). "Copyrights and Wrongs".
> > > > >www.articlestree.com.http://www.articlestree.com/copywriting/copyrigh.....
> > > > > ..
> > > > > > > Retrieved 2007-04-07.
> > > > > > > 9 ^ "Results 1 - 10 of about 371 for "Roberta Beach Jacobson"
> > > > > > > "Copyrights and Wrongs"".www.google.com.
> > > > >http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Roberta+Beach+Jacobs.......
> > > > > > > Retrieved 2007-04-07.
>
> > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement#Text
>
> > > > > > > It wasn't an intention to establish lawsuit but merely a cease and
> > > > > > > desist declaration.  "Potentially" a compilation of copied texts 
> > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > form a published work with all copyright reservations thereby
> > > > > > > rendering it as having monetary value.  You could easily compile 
> > > > > > > (not
> > > > > > > implying intent) the copied ME posts and put together any form of
> > > > > > > marketable material.  Establishing reserved rights to my personal 
> > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > gives me the opportunity to compile my own work for integration 
> > > > > > > within
> > > > > > > another body of material, therefore the work does have monetary 
> > > > > > > value
> > > > > > > when considering authorship aside from the what you have labeled 
> > > > > > > as a
> > > > > > > diminutive value of personal ego.  The laws are complex and 
> > > > > > > subject to
> > > > > > > a myriad of interpretations adding to the difficulty of 
> > > > > > > establishing
> > > > > > > laws concerning electronic information and the copying and 
> > > > > > > exchange of
> > > > > > > such information.  Who would buy books if they were just so easy 
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > copy from some Internet site?  This is the crux of the matter.
>
> > > > > > > Consider YouTube's use of and distribution of material and the
> > > > > > > implications. (scroll down for the article)
>
> > > > > > >http://www.articlestree.com/Legal/youtube-could-be-liable-for-copyrig.
> > > > > ..
>
> > > > > > > Again it is simply a cease and desist declaration not a prelude to
> > > > > > > legal remedies for infringement nor is it a complaint as 
> > > > > > > perceived by
> > > > > > > Twirlip in the post above.  I think you understand that.
>
> > > > > > > On Jan 16, 6:54 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > To be completely accurate, I began at Minds Eye asking 
> > > > > > > > individuals
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > permission, was told by the Mods that was not necessary because 
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > posts here were public domain, so stopped.  Sometime later, the
> > > > > public
> > > > > > > > domain issue was challenged, and copyright/fair use laws 
> > > > > > > > concerning
> > > > > > > > cross posting and copying the Minds Eye posts were discussed 
> > > > > > > > again.
> > > > > > > > Truth is, there are many sites that pull these discussions with 
> > > > > > > > an
> > > > > rss
> > > > > > > > feed and are used only for advertising.  My blog is different 
> > > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > that, I make no money from it, and use it to create discussion 
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > develop ideas.  I change fictitious names to real names when I 
> > > > > > > > know
> > > > > > > > them with permission and in respect because I think we are all 
> > > > > > > > adults
> > > > > > > > with adult names in the discussions.
>
> > > > > > > > Thanks, Twirlip, for your permission.
>
> > > > > > > > Applicable fair use and copyright law (taken from our last 
> > > > > > > > discussion
> > > > > > > > as referenced by the members here - thanks again)
>
> > > > > > > > 17 USC Sec. 102 holds your answer.  TITLE 17 - COPYRIGHTS, 
> > > > > > > > CHAPTER 1
> > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > SUBJECT MATTER AND SCOPE OF COPYRIGHT, Sec. 102. Subject matter 
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > copyright: In general
> > > > > > > >     (a) Copyright protection subsists, in accordance with this 
> > > > > > > > title,
> > > > > > > >     in original works of authorship fixed in any tangible 
> > > > > > > > medium of
> > > > > > > >     expression, now known or later developed, from which they 
> > > > > > > > can be
> > > > > > > >     perceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated, either 
> > > > > > > > directly
> > > > > > > >     or with the aid of a machine or device. Works of authorship
> > > > > > > > include
> > > > > > > >     the following categories:
> > > > > > > >         (1) literary works;
> > > > > > > >         (2) musical works, including any accompanying words;
> > > > > > > >         (3) dramatic works, including any accompanying music;
> > > > > > > >         (4) pantomimes and choreographic works;
> > > > > > > >         (5) pictorial, graphic, and sculptural works;
> > > > > > > >         (6) motion pictures and other audiovisual works;
> > > > > > > >         (7) sound recordings; and
> > > > > > > >         (8) architectural works.
> > > > > > > > This is the raw law.  Let me point you tohttp://
> > > > > uscode.house.gov/download/pls/17C1.txt
> > > > > > > > which along with the above law also has the historical and 
> > > > > > > > revision
> > > > > > > > notes which describe what the law is intended to encompass and 
> > > > > > > > how it
> > > > > > > > should be interpreted.
> > > > > > > > n top of the above is what you can do if the copyright of 
> > > > > > > > something
> > > > > > > > of which you have been the original author is violated -- about 
> > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > you can do is send them a cease and desist order, which if they
> > > > > > > > snubbed you could go to a court of equity to force them into
> > > > > > > > compliance.  But you couldn't sue them for monetary damages 
> > > > > > > > because
> > > > > > > > there would be none.  First of
>
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>
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