On Jan 18, 7:02 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think your idea falls apart when comparing our virtual salon to IRL
> conversations. Allow me to elaborate:
>
> If someone walked into a bar for the first time, and was subject to a jerk
> hassling them, would that then reflect on the bar itself? Perhaps, if this
> was a repeated incident occurring with multiple regular patrons. In most
> cases, however, it's simply that there are jerks everywhere you go.
>
> There's no "shadow" for ME to own, given that the basis of your entire
> premise is based on you walking into a virtual bar, having a bad encounter
> with a patron, and then spending a whole lot of time dwelling on that
> encounter, and what it says about "the bar", which in reality, is nothing.
> In fact, given that this virtual bar stepped up fairly quickly to correct
> out of line behaviour, your premise is entirely fallacious.

Whatever you imagine, I don't want a long wrangle.  You seem entirely
too focussed on me being some sort of egocentric or narcissistic
attention-seeker and troublemaker.

If you can't see any objective content in anything I say, I won't
waste too much your time and mine with an entirely pointless and petty
personal squabble (which, may I remind you, I did not start! - and
yes, I can guess exactly how bored you are to hear that).

I was not saying that Minds Eye (minus yours truly) has a shadow, of
which I am an innocent victim.  I'm saying that there is always a
shadow, everywhere.

And I even think there is a weird way in which I bring a bit of extra
shadow with me, wherever I go. (The "Jonah" remark, in another thread
- which I jumped into as soon as some unfortunate person started it!
However, he did mention the "bad mood", and the "bad mood" does seem
to focus on me!).

It's not something I do deliberately.  Nor, on the other hand, am I
being scapegoated for some dark secret. (Like, what was that Western -
Bad Day in Black Rock, was it?) I think it's something stranger and
more interesting than either of those two easy possibilities.

Also, this thread uses the example of my recent minor tribulations
here only as a way into talking about something objective.  A finger
pointing to the Moon - is that what they say?  But you won't let go of
my finger.

I have learned quite a lot from today's events.  But it doesn't look
like I am going to be able to share much of what I have learned.  I
did have a long conversation with my daughter, who has also been
running into a little "group" problem today (as I might almost have
predicted, just based on what has been happening to me here today -
there are these weird links). We talked about delusions of grandeur,
among other things.  As I was telling her about mine, she fell
asleep. :-)
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