Indeed, untill one wakes up to the knowledge that despite their immanent presence, their hard reality, they are nothing more than mere concepts, er, forms of consciousness ... which disappears when our own reference merges in the pure ( unformed ) consciousness.
On Jan 26, 12:23 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > "Death is the first coincident immanence as the pure consciousness > reveals its potential ..." > > It seems to me that painting the landscape of death with this form > would make life and death eternal... > > On Jan 25, 12:35 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Ah, Molly, verily, death is well within each one us, all the while. > > This body includes trillions of micro organisms and hundreds of > > compounds, working in particular ways symbiotically, strengthening or > > keeping us strengthened, to deliver effort. The symbiotic working > > fails, at first rarely, then occasionally, in parts, ... increasingly, > > more completely ... those same materials and organisms > > notwithstanding ! > > > Death is the first coincident immanence as the pure consciousness > > reveals its potential ... like what breaks the indistinguishability > > of time and space at the origin. The revelation process is manifest > > in the births. The entire fabric of Being and phenomena is spun of > > births and deaths, and zillions of in betweens. > > > Which brings us back to our self and what is before us ! > > > On Jan 25, 9:52 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I don't know about death being "easy" Pat. My father lost his memory > > > to Alzheimers before the age of 50, and lingered on this earth without > > > short or long term memory, control of body function or emotional > > > recognition for seven more years. I often wonder if folks in this > > > position are just place holders for death in some way, their continued > > > purpose for living incomprehensible. Is there something going on at > > > the level of the unseen or soul, that keeps them here on the outskirts > > > of life, and at the same time, out of the final reach of death - but > > > firmly in its clutches? > > > > On Jan 21, 8:35 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 21 Jan, 00:10, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I see it very similar, Pat, the understanding of the individual and > > > > > the ability to accept death and the resignation to it. Fear of death > > > > > may also bring about the need to fight the inevitable, which for even > > > > > the healthy is a fruitless endeavor. For sure religion has no bearing > > > > > on anything because anyone and everyone knows that this is a temporary > > > > > life. Belief in afterlife or not doesn't change the "end". > > > > > Personally I'm looking forward to all the virgins. Actually, I'm not > > > > > as fearful of death as I am of life in these parts of the universe. I > > > > > just don't see the big deal with dying, for me it is just the end of a > > > > > ride before the next ride. I think I'll just Tie-Dye. > > > > > As I've heard somewhere...Death, that's a doddle; it's one of the > > > > easiest things you'll do. About those virgins, it never states that > > > > you get to interact with them in any sexual way. If you DID, they'd > > > > lose that virginity, now, wouldn't they? ;-) > > > > > > On Jan 20, 5:54 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On 19 Jan, 15:20, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Always a personal choice, yes. Yet some deaths seem so much more > > > > > > > peaceful. My own mother came home from vacation, entered the > > > > > > > hospital > > > > > > > not feeling well, and died from a recurrence of cancer in three > > > > > > > days, > > > > > > > just enough time to gather her family, and all seven children > > > > > > > (spouses > > > > > > > and some grandchildren) were there at the final, peaceful moment. > > > > > > > > My mother in law fought it all the way, requiring greater amounts > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > meds to keep her calm, languishing for months. The person we > > > > > > > knew was > > > > > > > gone months before that moment. > > > > > > > > I wonder what it is we bring to the moment that makes the > > > > > > > difference. > > > > > > > I can only think that it's the individual's understanding of the > > > > > > process. And that includes Lee's 'fear' element, as well as any > > > > > > religious/non-religious beliefs ABOUT death. Both the religious and > > > > > > non-religious could have perfectly good reasons for not fearing it: > > > > > > the religious, because they believe that there is a life-after-death > > > > > > and their belief that they will experience a 'good' afterlife based > > > > > > on > > > > > > their beliefs about their own deeds during life and the > > > > > > non-religious, > > > > > > as they (MAY) expect absolutely nothing to follow, which, if true, > > > > > > would be nothing to fear. > > > > > > > > On Jan 19, 9:11 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > It's just gota be a personal thing hasn't it? > > > > > > > > > My Grandad died just last week, he died of Liver Cancer, he had > > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > clinging to life for the last three years and went out looking > > > > > > > > gaunt > > > > > > > > and wasted. My Nan has colon cancer and has just decided to > > > > > > > > not have > > > > > > > > treatment for it after watching my grandad fade out slowly. > > > > > > > > > It's just gotta be personal choice, yes? > > > > > > > > > On 19 Jan, 14:51, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I watched my friend Chris Bernard face his eminent death with > > > > > > > > > love, > > > > > > > > > courage and dignity. While participating in this with him, I > > > > > > > > > wondered, what is the state of mind that death requires of > > > > > > > > > us? What > > > > > > > > > can we bring to it to ease our own suffering? Should we rage > > > > > > > > > against > > > > > > > > > the dying of the light like Dylan Thomas? Should we reach > > > > > > > > > out for > > > > > > > > > spiritual support, ask forgiveness, say farewell? 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