Intuition comes in many beautiful forms. On Jan 26, 8:45 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > On 25 Jan, 16:52, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I don't know about death being "easy" Pat. My father lost his memory > > to Alzheimers before the age of 50, and lingered on this earth without > > short or long term memory, control of body function or emotional > > recognition for seven more years. I often wonder if folks in this > > position are just place holders for death in some way, their continued > > purpose for living incomprehensible. Is there something going on at > > the level of the unseen or soul, that keeps them here on the outskirts > > of life, and at the same time, out of the final reach of death - but > > firmly in its clutches? > > Ahh, that's 'dying'!! Dying is before death and dying may be very > long and painful. Death itself IS easy. Only the One knows the > answer to your last question. Next time(!) I see Azrael (the > Messenger/Angel OF the One that deals with issues related to death), > I'll ask him. I didn't get much of a chance to say anything on our > first encounter. And, no, I'm NOT being facetious about that. I'm > revealing a tad bit of one of my 'more convincing' experiences. At > that time, I was only told (actually, the words were impressed on my > mind...I 'heard' nothing) that I had been dealt a danger. But I was > able to put two and two together and realised from where the threat > came and I'm still alive, but the the person who posed the threat at > THAT time is no longer. Since that time, I consider ol' Azzy to be > one of my Guardians. Those who may think I'm completely bonkers, > well, you had to be there; and, if you had, you would have, unlike > myself, wet yourselves. To me, it was just one of those things. > > > On Jan 21, 8:35 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 21 Jan, 00:10, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I see it very similar, Pat, the understanding of the individual and > > > > the ability to accept death and the resignation to it. Fear of death > > > > may also bring about the need to fight the inevitable, which for even > > > > the healthy is a fruitless endeavor. For sure religion has no bearing > > > > on anything because anyone and everyone knows that this is a temporary > > > > life. Belief in afterlife or not doesn't change the "end". > > > > Personally I'm looking forward to all the virgins. Actually, I'm not > > > > as fearful of death as I am of life in these parts of the universe. I > > > > just don't see the big deal with dying, for me it is just the end of a > > > > ride before the next ride. I think I'll just Tie-Dye. > > > > As I've heard somewhere...Death, that's a doddle; it's one of the > > > easiest things you'll do. About those virgins, it never states that > > > you get to interact with them in any sexual way. If you DID, they'd > > > lose that virginity, now, wouldn't they? ;-) > > > > > On Jan 20, 5:54 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > On 19 Jan, 15:20, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Always a personal choice, yes. Yet some deaths seem so much more > > > > > > peaceful. My own mother came home from vacation, entered the > > > > > > hospital > > > > > > not feeling well, and died from a recurrence of cancer in three > > > > > > days, > > > > > > just enough time to gather her family, and all seven children > > > > > > (spouses > > > > > > and some grandchildren) were there at the final, peaceful moment. > > > > > > > My mother in law fought it all the way, requiring greater amounts of > > > > > > meds to keep her calm, languishing for months. The person we knew > > > > > > was > > > > > > gone months before that moment. > > > > > > > I wonder what it is we bring to the moment that makes the > > > > > > difference. > > > > > > I can only think that it's the individual's understanding of the > > > > > process. And that includes Lee's 'fear' element, as well as any > > > > > religious/non-religious beliefs ABOUT death. Both the religious and > > > > > non-religious could have perfectly good reasons for not fearing it: > > > > > the religious, because they believe that there is a life-after-death > > > > > and their belief that they will experience a 'good' afterlife based on > > > > > their beliefs about their own deeds during life and the non-religious, > > > > > as they (MAY) expect absolutely nothing to follow, which, if true, > > > > > would be nothing to fear. > > > > > > > On Jan 19, 9:11 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > It's just gota be a personal thing hasn't it? > > > > > > > > My Grandad died just last week, he died of Liver Cancer, he had > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > clinging to life for the last three years and went out looking > > > > > > > gaunt > > > > > > > and wasted. My Nan has colon cancer and has just decided to not > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > treatment for it after watching my grandad fade out slowly. > > > > > > > > It's just gotta be personal choice, yes? > > > > > > > > On 19 Jan, 14:51, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I watched my friend Chris Bernard face his eminent death with > > > > > > > > love, > > > > > > > > courage and dignity. While participating in this with him, I > > > > > > > > wondered, what is the state of mind that death requires of us? > > > > > > > > What > > > > > > > > can we bring to it to ease our own suffering? Should we rage > > > > > > > > against > > > > > > > > the dying of the light like Dylan Thomas? Should we reach out > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > spiritual support, ask forgiveness, say farewell? 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