The validity of the term "schizophrenia" is disputed among mental- health professionals. For this reason alone it is a label which should not be lightly tossed about by non-professionals:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6033013.stm http://www.asylumonline.net/ Francis On 5 Feb., 17:35, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't care about slamming you, although it wouldn't be difficult if > I wanted to. I simply use the information that you provided. You admit > delusions both auditory and visual: schizophrenia. You enjoy them and > have elevated them to divine: reluctance to medicate. Yes, that is an > old adage. > > On Feb 4, 11:02 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Interesting Fid, > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:43 AM, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > You see what you choose to see. If you knew how little emotion I have > > > invested in random strangers in online chat groups... I have even less > > > invested in unmedicated schizophrenics. > > > So your argument is that if you can not slam them you call the person an > > unmedicated schizophrenic that is very kind of you to give me your medical > > diagnosis.. I think I will stick with my friends that are actually doctors > > and psychiatrist. I am not a doctor and can not give a diagnosis but there > > is an old adage what we see in others is exactly what we see in our selves. > > Allan > > > On Feb 3, 11:27 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I understand Orn when I read what fid is writing I do not see an exchange > > > of ideas but what appears to be a foaming hate filled being. If he is > > going > > > to university with an attitude like that it would be a wonder if he could > > > get through even a single class. > > > Allan > > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:32 AM, ornamentalmind < > > > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > Truth be told...I cut fid a lot of slack. He's going to university, > > > > > studying a lot of stuff, interacting on numerous online groups....I > > > > > know that more than once I hurried through posts missing the intent. > > > > > Oh, and I also remember when I knew a lot of stuff and knew others > > > > > didnt...and attempted to put interaction and discussion into a > > > > > box...with tenets and rules and all of that...which I'd attempt to > > > > > impose on everyone else. Doing such things surely make the universe a > > > > > more 'friendly', if not understood, place. > > > > > > On Feb 3, 2:12 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Fid you are dealing with a bunch of old people here who ahve been > > > around > > > > > the > > > > > > bush a time or two. > > > > > > > Since you like simple sentences I will give you one to ponder. > > > > > > > I know God is real because I have meet and seen him. He has spoken > > > > > > to > > > me. > > > > > I > > > > > > have spoken to him, and which is even more amazing he is my friend. > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:53 PM, fiddler <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > When you learn the difference between personal bias and dogma I > > > will > > > > > > > be quite impressed. > > > > > > > > On Feb 3, 8:31 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hahahah you are a funny one Fidds, and you still have just not > > > got it > > > > > > > > yet I see. > > > > > > > > > Dogma - > > > > > > > > > 1. a system of principles or tenets, as of a church. > > > > > > > > 2. a specific tenet or doctrine authoritatively laid down, as by > > > a > > > > > > > > church: the dogma of the Assumption. > > > > > > > > 3. prescribed doctrine: political dogma. > > > > > > > > 4. a settled or established opinion, belief, or principle. > > > > > > > > > Your insistance that those of religious faith are, not > > > intelectual, > > > > > > > > peddle nonsense, and are liars is certianly evidance of number 4 > > > on > > > > > > > > the list above. So indeed yes I agree we should all learn what > > > the > > > > > > > > words we use mean. > > > > > > > > > As to labeling people my friend you have not ceased doing that > > > from > > > > > > > > the moment you joined us. Umm pot - kettle me thinks. > > > > > > > > > Yet another angry man who can dish it yet cannot take it. > > > > > > > > > On 3 Feb, 16:20, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I really overestimated your intelligence... > > > > > > > > > Listen fundie: quit telling me what I think, promote, desire, > > > or > > > > > mean. > > > > > > > > > I know you people like reading volumes into sentences, but it > > > never > > > > > > > > > looks well on you. Learn what simple concepts like dogma > > > actually > > > > > > > > > mean, your priest and those fundie websites lie to you. Just > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > you feel the need to label people with your own handicaps does > > > not > > > > > > > > > make it so, it just insures you won't understand what other > > > people > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > talking about. > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 3, 7:01 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > “…I'm against children having their minds polluted by > > > mysticism, > > > > > > > > > > nonsense, and lies perpetrated by politicians and priests.” > > > > > > > > > > – > > > fid > > > > > > > > > > > Then you must be for removing children from their parents at > > > a > > > > > very > > > > > > > > > > young age and raising them in ‘free thinking’ enclaves…thus > > > > > > > protecting > > > > > > > > > > them from all of what your dogma defines as ‘nonsense’. > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 2, 8:50 pm, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The gatherings for sports, special subject education, > > > social > > > > > > > > > > > > interaction, etc, are always with other like-minded > > > families. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thus removing that messy and uncomfortable situation in > > > which > > > > > one > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > around those not of a like mind? This breeds intolerance > > > and > > > > > sad > > > > > > > > > > > subjugation to dogmas and narrow minded worldviews. Not > > > that > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > > the public, factory worker, indoctrination system; only > > > that > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > > > > > against children having their minds polluted by mysticism, > > > > > > > nonsense, > > > > > > > > > > > and lies perpetrated by politicians and priests. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 2, 4:27 pm, MajorOz <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 2, 3:28 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.hslda.org/laws/default.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.hslda.org/legislation/state/default.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.hslda.org/orgs/default.asp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many Public Schools have been turning out idiots, kids > > > that > > > > > > > can't read > > > > > > > > > > > > > or read at a poor level. Kids can enhance their > > > > > socialization > > > > > > > skills > > > > > > > > > > > > > in extra curricular activities, sports events and > > > > > > > > > > > > > other > > > > > social > > > > > > > > > > > > > functions. Home schooled children are not isolated > > > > > prisoners > > > > > > > confined > > > > > > > > > > > > > to parental control. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not completely isolated, but, in a practical sense, most > > > are. > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my experience (and my daughter home schooled her four > > > > > until > > > > > > > she > > > > > > > > > > > > realized it was doing them a disservice) home schooling > > > > > exists > > > > > > > because > > > > > > > > > > > > parents aren't so much interested in doing something FOR > > > the > > > > > kids > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > they are in attempting to keep them from being exposed > > > > > > > > > > > > to > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apostasy is encountered only by accident. > > > > > > > > > > > > > cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > > oz- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > > Groups > > > > > > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > > > [email protected]<minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups > > > > > > > .com> > > > <minds-eye%[email protected]<minds-eye%252bunsubscr...@googleg > > > roups.com> > > > > > > <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ( > > > > > > ) > > > > > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups > > > > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > [email protected]<minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups > > > > > .com> > > > <minds-eye%[email protected]<minds-eye%252bunsubscr...@googleg > > > roups.com> > > > > > > . > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > > > > -- > > > > ( > > > > ) > > > > I_D Allan > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]<minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups > > > .com> > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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