Fair enough. I personally don't have a problem with your delivery. In fact, when I first started posting here I was probably a bit more caustic then you have been. I was used to Yahoo type chat rooms where ridicule and sophism were the norm. Here on Mind's Eye it's usually more subtle and, when I can, I enjoy slipping the barbs in wrapped in silk. It's fun. Which is what I'm here for.
dj On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:00 PM, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm not a neuro-typical. My delivery is often a cause of contention > and there is precious little I can do to change that. > I've been repeatedly toldhere that I'm "hate filled" and I view this > as an attack as well as untrue. I don't have all of the emotion flying > about unchecked that most people do. My emotions are simple and > applied where they serve me best. When people like allan try to apply > their own mental state to me, it is offensive and I will respond. No > degradation was intended by that sentence, I was merely pointing out > that I have both the capability and knowledge to do what he accused me > of doing in methods and using information far better than he credits > me with. > I'm not adversarial, I simply have difficulty trying not to hurt > peoples feelings. I get to "D" by following a well dilineated mental > path that draws available information, by way of "A","B", and "C." > From the moment of my first post, I've had a moderator pester me. If I > get banned so be it. I haven't invested emotion here and don't plan > to. > Just because I apply my emotions to my interests and family does not > mean that I cannot be offended, however. I simply don't become angry. > What offends me is the purposeful destruction of language for personal > and self-serving application. Without precise language I would not be > able to communicate, something that is already difficult for myself > and those like me. Knowledge and information are paramount, that is > why we tend to do jobs neuro-typicals have difficulty in; such as > science, innovative technologies, exploration, research, etc.. I can > see the colours of physics in action, I can hear the sound of > trigonometry and calculus, I can taste the developement of planets and > suns. When less people are neuro-typical, more people will understand > me. > > You didn't ask for all of this info, but I tire of being told what I > think, intend, feel, or whatnot. Please note that I didn't personally > attack him, I merely described what is quite visible and even proudly > stated. I have come to understand that, for some reason, a few of the > posters here are allowed carte blanche in personal insults and > dismissing other peoples intelligence. I simply don't like that game > and don't play it. I say what I mean and expect others to do the same, > no matter how many times the typicals show they have no interest in > doing so. What I view as an observation is simply that, no offence is > hiding behind the words. When i insult, I do it well and devestatingly > to a point. > > And for vam and others that will now say "AH HA, you are insulted so > the insult must be true!" I'm not insulted. It does not recquire being > wounded to know when someone aims and shoots at you. > > > > On Feb 5, 9:28 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 10:35 AM, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I don't care about slamming you, although it wouldn't be difficult if >> > I wanted to. I simply use the information that you provided. You admit >> > delusions both auditory and visual: schizophrenia. You enjoy them and >> > have elevated them to divine: reluctance to medicate. Yes, that is an >> > old adage. >> >> Fiddler, I agree with most of your opinions if not always in the way >> you present them. I rarely offer advice unless asked and this would >> be the first time I've ever done anything like what I'm about to do. >> With that ominous lead in I'll get right to it. >> >> It is quite possible to get your ideas and opinions across without >> degrading your interlocutor. Sentences like the first one in your >> post above are simply unnecessary. You could easily have phrased this >> differently and gotten your opinion across just as well if not better. >> I believe you have the writing skills. The only reason I'm saying >> anything is because I'd like you to stick around and if you keep your >> tone adversarial the moderators will start pestering you and then >> you'll get your feelings hurt and leave. I'd rather not see that >> happen. >> >> dj >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Feb 4, 11:02 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Interesting Fid, >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:43 AM, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > You see what you choose to see. If you knew how little emotion I have >> >> > invested in random strangers in online chat groups... I have even less >> >> > invested in unmedicated schizophrenics. >> >> >> So your argument is that if you can not slam them you call the person an >> >> unmedicated schizophrenic that is very kind of you to give me your medical >> >> diagnosis.. I think I will stick with my friends that are actually >> >> doctors >> >> and psychiatrist. I am not a doctor and can not give a diagnosis but >> >> there >> >> is an old adage what we see in others is exactly what we see in our >> >> selves. >> >> Allan >> >> >> On Feb 3, 11:27 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > I understand Orn when I read what fid is writing I do not see an >> >> > exchange >> >> > of ideas but what appears to be a foaming hate filled being. If he is >> >> going >> >> > to university with an attitude like that it would be a wonder if he >> >> > could >> >> > get through even a single class. >> >> > Allan >> >> >> > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:32 AM, ornamentalmind < >> >> > [email protected]>wrote: >> >> >> > > > Truth be told...I cut fid a lot of slack. He's going to university, >> >> > > > studying a lot of stuff, interacting on numerous online groups....I >> >> > > > know that more than once I hurried through posts missing the intent. >> >> > > > Oh, and I also remember when I knew a lot of stuff and knew others >> >> > > > didnt...and attempted to put interaction and discussion into a >> >> > > > box...with tenets and rules and all of that...which I'd attempt to >> >> > > > impose on everyone else. Doing such things surely make the universe >> >> > > > a >> >> > > > more 'friendly', if not understood, place. >> >> >> > > > On Feb 3, 2:12 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > Fid you are dealing with a bunch of old people here who ahve been >> >> > around >> >> > > > the >> >> > > > > bush a time or two. >> >> >> > > > > Since you like simple sentences I will give you one to ponder. >> >> >> > > > > I know God is real because I have meet and seen him. He has >> >> > > > > spoken to >> >> > me. >> >> > > > I >> >> > > > > have spoken to him, and which is even more amazing he is my >> >> > > > > friend. >> >> > > > > Allan >> >> >> > > > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:53 PM, fiddler <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> > > > > > When you learn the difference between personal bias and dogma I >> >> > will >> >> > > > > > be quite impressed. >> >> >> > > > > > On Feb 3, 8:31 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > Hahahah you are a funny one Fidds, and you still have just not >> >> > got it >> >> > > > > > > yet I see. >> >> >> > > > > > > Dogma - >> >> >> > > > > > > 1. a system of principles or tenets, as of a church. >> >> > > > > > > 2. a specific tenet or doctrine authoritatively laid down, as >> >> > > > > > > by >> >> > a >> >> > > > > > > church: the dogma of the Assumption. >> >> > > > > > > 3. prescribed doctrine: political dogma. >> >> > > > > > > 4. a settled or established opinion, belief, or principle. >> >> >> > > > > > > Your insistance that those of religious faith are, not >> >> > intelectual, >> >> > > > > > > peddle nonsense, and are liars is certianly evidance of >> >> > > > > > > number 4 >> >> > on >> >> > > > > > > the list above. So indeed yes I agree we should all learn >> >> > > > > > > what >> >> > the >> >> > > > > > > words we use mean. >> >> >> > > > > > > As to labeling people my friend you have not ceased doing that >> >> > from >> >> > > > > > > the moment you joined us. Umm pot - kettle me thinks. >> >> >> > > > > > > Yet another angry man who can dish it yet cannot take it. >> >> >> > > > > > > On 3 Feb, 16:20, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > > > > > > > I really overestimated your intelligence... >> >> > > > > > > > Listen fundie: quit telling me what I think, promote, >> >> > > > > > > > desire, >> >> > or >> >> > > > mean. >> >> > > > > > > > I know you people like reading volumes into sentences, but >> >> > > > > > > > it >> >> > never >> >> > > > > > > > looks well on you. Learn what simple concepts like dogma >> >> > actually >> >> > > > > > > > mean, your priest and those fundie websites lie to you. Just >> >> > > > because >> >> > > > > > > > you feel the need to label people with your own handicaps >> >> > > > > > > > does >> >> > not >> >> > > > > > > > make it so, it just insures you won't understand what other >> >> > people >> >> > > > are >> >> > > > > > > > talking about. >> >> >> > > > > > > > On Feb 3, 7:01 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> >> >> > > > wrote: >> >> >> > > > > > > > > “…I'm against children having their minds polluted by >> >> > mysticism, >> >> > > > > > > > > nonsense, and lies perpetrated by politicians and >> >> > > > > > > > > priests.” – >> >> > fid >> >> >> > > > > > > > > Then you must be for removing children from their parents >> >> > > > > > > > > at >> >> > a >> >> > > > very >> >> > > > > > > > > young age and raising them in ‘free thinking’ >> >> > > > > > > > > enclaves…thus >> >> > > > > > protecting >> >> > > > > > > > > them from all of what your dogma defines as ‘nonsense’. >> >> >> > > > > > > > > On Feb 2, 8:50 pm, fiddler <[email protected]> >> >> > > > > > > > > wrote: >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > The gatherings for sports, special subject education, >> >> > social >> >> > > > > > > > > > > interaction, etc, are always with other like-minded >> >> > families. >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > Thus removing that messy and uncomfortable situation in >> >> > which >> >> > > > one >> >> > > > > > is >> >> > > > > > > > > > around those not of a like mind? This breeds intolerance >> >> > and >> >> > > > sad >> >> > > > > > > > > > subjugation to dogmas and narrow minded worldviews. Not >> >> > that >> >> > > > I'm >> >> > > > > > for >> >> > > > > > > > > > the public, factory worker, indoctrination system; only >> >> > that >> >> > > > I'm >> >> > > > > > > > > > against children having their minds polluted by >> >> > > > > > > > > > mysticism, >> >> > > > > > nonsense, >> >> > > > > > > > > > and lies perpetrated by politicians and priests. >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > On Feb 2, 4:27 pm, MajorOz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 2, 3:28 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.hslda.org/laws/default.asp >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.hslda.org/legislation/state/default.asp >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.hslda.org/orgs/default.asp >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Many Public Schools have been turning out idiots, >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > kids >> >> > that >> >> > > > > > can't read >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > or read at a poor level. Kids can enhance their >> >> > > > socialization >> >> > > > > > skills >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > in extra curricular activities, sports events and >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > other >> >> > > > social >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > functions. Home schooled children are not isolated >> >> > > > prisoners >> >> > > > > > confined >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > to parental control. >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > Not completely isolated, but, in a practical sense, >> >> > > > > > > > > > > most >> >> > are. >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > In my experience (and my daughter home schooled her >> >> > > > > > > > > > > four >> >> > > > until >> >> > > > > > she >> >> > > > > > > > > > > realized it was doing them a disservice) home >> >> > > > > > > > > > > schooling >> >> > > > exists >> >> > > > > > because >> >> > > > > > > > > > > parents aren't so much interested in doing something >> >> > > > > > > > > > > FOR >> >> > the >> >> > > > kids >> >> > > > > > as >> >> > > > > > > > > > > they are in attempting to keep them from being >> >> > > > > > > > > > > exposed to >> >> > ... >> >> > > > > > > > > > > whatever. >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > Apostasy is encountered only by accident. >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > cheers >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > oz- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - >> >> >> > > > > > -- >> >> > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> >> > > > > > Google >> >> > > > Groups >> >> > > > > > ""Minds Eye"" group. >> >> > > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> > > > > > [email protected]<minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> >> > <minds-eye%[email protected]<minds-eye%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> >> >> > > > <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> >> > > > > > . >> >> > > > > > For more options, visit this group at >> >> > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. >> >> >> > > > > -- >> >> > > > > ( >> >> > > > > ) >> >> > > > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> > > > > - Show quoted text - >> >> >> > > > -- >> >> > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >> > Groups >> >> > > > ""Minds Eye"" group. >> >> > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> >> > > > [email protected]<minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> >> > <minds-eye%[email protected]<minds-eye%252bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> >> >> > > > . >> >> > > > For more options, visit this group at >> >> ... >> >> read more »- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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