Hey, Molly, I was referring more to the Book itself than to your post.

In traditions here, very highly attained Yogis ( Gorakhnath ), who
show such powers, have been admonished by the ' cool and quiet ' ones
( Kabir ).

On Feb 7, 4:19 am, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
> The passage came to mind for me when I read Ash's statement on "toxins
> I consume."  I think the passage leads us to the notion that by
> lifting our experience to a state that includes spirit (pick up
> snakes, include the physical with the spiritual) we can do all that is
> mentioned in the passage.  Of course, interpretation is the key,  For
> instance, drive out demons may be just a change in viewpoint from
> duality to non dual that comes in the unity consiciousness of belief
> such as that of Christ.  When our will is aligned with Gods will, or
> in other words, the physical brought to the state that also includes
> spirit, what might have been toxic in a purely physical state is no
> longer toxic.
>
> Of course you know, knowing me as you do, that I did not present the
> passage as a support for any particular theology, but more as an
> illustration of a non dual viewpoint, one necessarily all inclusive
> such as Ash's graphic suggests: "The
> idea of a mural has crossed my mind also, depicting pain,
> inspiration,
> hope, suffering, geometry, astronomy, physics, alchemical symbols,
> mandalas."
>
> I thought it an appropriate response to Ash, given his prior
> response.  Please forgive me if I have overstepped.
>
> On Feb 6, 6:01 pm, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Molly, may I express my mind ...
>
> > I believe that such writings should not be there in the public domain
> > for two reasons : one, these are very personal to the man, his quest,
> > his consummation and blessedness ; and, two, these signs are more in
> > the ' will of God ' than that of man ... in fact, the man consumed
> > gives two hoots to such signs or ' powers.'  He's more likely to
> > address God and say, ' Do what you will.'  We've had attainers here
> > who'd go to great lengths to hide such signs and conceal such
> > powers !  The merit of it lies in it allowing more real opportunities
> > to establish communication, rather communion, of heart and mind.
>
> > It would however be okay for the master to share such personal
> > experiences with his or her close disciples, when they are ready, and
> > they to theirs.
>
> > On Feb 6, 6:06 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > "And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they
> > > will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;they will pick
> > > up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will
> > > not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and
> > > they will get well." Mark 16
>
> > > There is that state wherein we are protected from harm, that non dual
> > > state that is non local and all inclusive...
>
> > > Cheers
>
> > > On Feb 6, 4:40 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > " ... toxins I consume."
>
> > > > There's my mate !
>
> > > > On Feb 6, 9:13 am, Ash <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > A long running dream is to get one large, black dragon diagonally 
> > > > > across
> > > > > my back and perhaps a smaller blue one going over the other shoulder.
> > > > > The black having hues or red and the blue having black for accent. The
> > > > > idea of a mural has crossed my mind also, depicting pain, inspiration,
> > > > > hope, suffering, geometry, astronomy, physics, alchemical symbols,
> > > > > mandalas- I'm not sure there is room for all that, and what images to
> > > > > choose, how to lay it out!?
>
> > > > > What I've wanted more is embedded computing and augmentation, but 
> > > > > that's
> > > > > a little less likely to happen in this day and age...
>
> > > > > I'm presently au naturale as they say, except for toxins I consume.
>
> > > > > On 2/5/2010 11:55 AM, Lee wrote:
>
> > > > > > So I'm quite a fan of this, as a mutli pireced and tattoed man, I'm
> > > > > > now feeling the tattoo itch again (forgive me father it has been two
> > > > > > years since my last tat), I have the design all ready I know where I
> > > > > > want it, and by the end of the month the cash will be in my pocket 
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > away I'll go.
>
> > > > > > I was also thinking of a Prince Albert (if I can manage to persude 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > wife) and and perhaps a branding or scar of some discription (all
> > > > > > future plans you undestand).
>
> > > > > > What about you lot, fans, find it disgusting, got anything tated, or
> > > > > > poked a hole through anything lately?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

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