Well said Fidd. On 8 Feb, 20:56, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > I seem to have totally left out another category: that of the general > concepts. As I was breaking it down and looking at the issues to > write, it occured to me that many examples are -at their root- simply > extensions of some basic negatives. So essentially I can give > specifics or touch the concepts. > The primary negative is the removal of power from the individual or > the secular society. Each abrahamic religion has the concept that the > believer is dross or corrupt. Original sin is the single most anti- > human concept ever and it permeates these faiths. Far too many people > believe that they are nothing without god, when the opposite is true, > god is nothing without them. > People that feel they are worthless, live like they are worthless. The > common phrase among christians now is "you can't buy your way into > heaven." Because they aren't full of human self worth, they must beg > for worth from their god. This leads to positive actions like taking > care of people, working for education of all, eradicating disease, > etc., not being worthy on their own. These people that sacrifice and > struggle to make existence better for the rest of society without > doing it in some religious cause, are simply trying to buy their way > in rather than demonstrating what a truly grand and beautiful thing is > humanity and our interests. This is an enormous negative. > > On Feb 7, 2:34 pm, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > This subject is far too broad. Would you prefer historical or > > contemporary examples? Historical being 500+ years ago and on to > > antiquity, contemporary being 500yrs ago until present. > > > On Feb 7, 2:10 pm, 1CellOfMany <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I am starting two parallel threads here: This one on the negative acts > > > and effect of religion and religious people, and the other on the > > > positive deeds and effects. > > > > Religions and religious people have done some really bad stuff, > > > despite that they say they are so good. Some of it is in the news, > > > some is hidden and some is just accepted by society with little > > > question. Let's use this thread to talk about those negative results > > > of religion and religious belief. How does religion negatively affect > > > children? What do the "source books" of religions say that are just > > > wrong? > > > > It might be helpful to develop an accurate time line correlating the > > > beginning and spread of various religions to historical events and > > > trends in the areas of the world that come under the influence of the > > > religion. > > > > Since religion has been around so long and has had such a pervasive > > > influence on society, it might be helpful to look at how a more > > > rational approach could be developed to supplant religion as the > > > source of answers to questions about right and wrong, goals in life, > > > and what happens when we die. (Then again, all this might be better > > > suited to a thread of its own!)- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -
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