I seem to have totally left out another category: that of the general
concepts. As I was breaking it down and looking at the issues to
write, it occured to me that many examples are -at their root- simply
extensions of some basic negatives. So essentially I can give
specifics or touch the concepts.
The primary negative is the removal of power from the individual or
the secular society. Each abrahamic religion has the concept that the
believer is dross or corrupt. Original sin is the single most anti-
human concept ever and it permeates these faiths. Far too many people
believe that they are nothing without god, when the opposite is true,
god is nothing without them.
People that feel they are worthless, live like they are worthless. The
common phrase among christians now is "you can't buy your way into
heaven." Because they aren't full of human self worth, they must beg
for worth from their god. This leads to positive actions like taking
care of people, working for education of all, eradicating disease,
etc., not being worthy on their own. These people that sacrifice and
struggle to make existence better for the rest of society without
doing it in some religious cause, are simply trying to buy their way
in rather than demonstrating what a truly grand and beautiful thing is
humanity and our interests. This is an enormous negative.

On Feb 7, 2:34 pm, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote:
> This subject is far too broad. Would you prefer historical or
> contemporary examples? Historical being 500+ years ago and on to
> antiquity, contemporary being 500yrs ago until present.
>
> On Feb 7, 2:10 pm, 1CellOfMany <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I am starting two parallel threads here: This one on the negative acts
> > and effect of religion and religious people, and the other on the
> > positive deeds and effects.
>
> > Religions and religious people have done some really bad stuff,
> > despite that they say they are so good.  Some of it is in the news,
> > some is hidden and some is just accepted by society with little
> > question.  Let's use this thread to talk about those negative results
> > of religion and religious belief.  How does religion negatively affect
> > children? What do the "source books" of religions say that are just
> > wrong?
>
> > It might be helpful to develop an accurate time line correlating the
> > beginning and spread of various religions to historical events and
> > trends in the areas of the world that come under the influence of the
> > religion.
>
> > Since religion has been around so long and has had such a pervasive
> > influence on society, it might be helpful to look at how a more
> > rational approach could be developed to supplant religion as the
> > source of answers to questions about right and wrong, goals in life,
> > and what happens when we die.  (Then again, all this might be better
> > suited to a thread of its own!)- Hide quoted text -
>
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