I thought Germany was in fourth for around three years now!? Was I wrong or are you unsure? It's been awhile since I actually took an active interest so I may be wrong.
On Feb 23, 8:12 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > It's interesting that the 3 countries with the largest economies have > the death penalty. Coincidence? Or am I wrong in thinking China has > now eclipsed Germany for the third slot? I don't see a connection but > it is interesting just the same. > > dj > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:06 AM, RichardM <[email protected]> wrote: > > The Tudors did start in a bloody way--it was Henry VIII who invented > > the practice of drawing and quartering alleged traitors. However, by > > the time of Elizabeth I, the use of the death penalty began slowly to > > taper off--for example, Elizabeth ended the burning of "heretics"--and > > by the 18th century, although the death penalty remained on the books > > for dozens of offenses, juries began to refuse to convict in death > > penalty offenses, which led the authorities to substitute > > "transportation" to penal colonies such as what became the American > > state of Georgia. At the same time, England abolished torture, as did > > the Netherlands. In the next century, England restricted the use of > > the death penalty to cases of murder. Finally, after most European > > countries abolished the death penalty in reaction to Nazi atrocities > > (if you visit Germany, you will see memorials which mention that one > > of the Nazi crimes against humanity was wholesale use of the death > > penalty, even for non-ethnic and non-political reasons), and the UK > > finally got rid of it in the 1970s. That left the US as one of the > > few developed countries (Japan and China being the others) still > > practicing capital punishment. > > > On Feb 22, 9:48 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Let's not forget Spain's bloodthirst in the New World against > >> indigenous tribes- for God and gold.//As for Tudor England, I think of > >> heads on pikes the drawing and quartering plus all the other tortures > >> plus the beheadings.And the Star Chamber, etc. But then, I recently > >> read Rome cruxified 6,000 slaves that rebelled- Spartacus. > > >> On Feb 21, 1:34 pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > Tudor England was indeed no picnic, rigsy. In terms of contemporary > >> > comparison however, it was one of the more peaceful, law-abiding > >> > civilized places. For most of the 16th. Century, Italy was chaotic and > >> > the Holy Roman Empire (centred on Germany) was spasming in the throes > >> > of the Reformation and the immense amount of conflict and bloodshed it > >> > brought in its wake. France spent most of the century in Civil/ > >> > Religious war (the St. Bartholemew's Day massacre being just one > >> > spectacular highlight) and Russia was experiencing its rather painful > >> > first leap into modernity under the benevolent rule of Ivan the > >> > Terrible. Most of South Eastern Europe was under Turkish control, > >> > although that might have been advantageous for much of the > >> > populations, given the alternatives. Ironically, the only other part > >> > of Europe where things were generally peaceful and law-abiding was > >> > the great enemy (for most of the period) of Tudor England, Spain (and > >> > Portugal). As long as you weren't a Jew or didn't run foul of the > >> > Inquisition for some reason, of course! > > >> > On 21 Feb., 13:09, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > Religion has probably executed more than politics. Tudor England was > >> > > gruesome. > > >> > > On Feb 19, 4:46 pm, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > Traitor to what? Disagreement is the most common charge of being a > >> > > > traitor, do you really want that to be a reason for why you are > >> > > > executed? Statistically you will disagree with those in power more > >> > > > often than not. Throughout history, those disagreements are the > >> > > > reason > >> > > > that people are executed for treason, not some criminal act. > > >> > > > On Feb 19, 2:36 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > Right on Rigs! People wonder why recidivism is so high. I don't > >> > > > > wonder at all considering many of these folks don't live near as > >> > > > > well > >> > > > > when they have to fend for themselves. Too many want to get > >> > > > > caught so > >> > > > > they can go back to the routine. The death penalty should be > >> > > > > reserved > >> > > > > for the lowest scum bags on the earth. Career rapists, sadistic > >> > > > > murderers and, of course, traitors and terrorists. > > >> > > > > dj > > >> > > > > On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 4:10 AM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > > > You mean the animal kingdom that we have systematically > >> > > > > > slaughtered? > >> > > > > > Or the human kingdom that plays war and violence on such a > >> > > > > > regular > >> > > > > > basis? Or the vegetable kingdom that we have mutated and > >> > > > > > deprived of > >> > > > > > healthy soil and water? //I am for the death penalty for serious > >> > > > > > human > >> > > > > > crimes based on serious evidence. Prison is turning into a > >> > > > > > Holiday Inn > >> > > > > > with three meals a day, fresh laundry, etc. plus it is big > >> > > > > > business > >> > > > > > like nursing homes. Why can't prisoners shovel snow and weed > >> > > > > > gardens > >> > > > > > chain gang style in striped p.j.'s for the non-criminal citizens > >> > > > > > instead of enjoying their hiatus? > > >> > > > > > On Feb 18, 3:19 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > > >> This is a worry Fids. Not only the great apes, but all of the > >> > > > > >> animal > >> > > > > >> kingdom. Our bio diversity is much needed, until such a time > >> > > > > >> as we > >> > > > > >> get to grips with genetic manipulation. > > >> > > > > >> On 18 Feb, 04:25, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > sorry slip, I'm not a theist. I don't give up because a > >> > > > > >> > bronze age > >> > > > > >> > goatherder said so or take some schizophrenics word for > >> > > > > >> > complete > >> > > > > >> > knowledge of "truth." I did hear that a oneness said > >> > > > > >> > something or > >> > > > > >> > other to a guy named firm-palm-touch... of course that > >> > > > > >> > particular > >> > > > > >> > theist won't publish the idea in a peer-reviewed journal... > > >> > > > > >> > On Feb 17, 7:52 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > It doesn't really matter fidd, we're only heading toward a > >> > > > > >> > > nuclear > >> > > > > >> > > holocaust anyway and the threat of such is currently > >> > > > > >> > > escalating. > >> > > > > >> > > Haven't you heard? It's already documented in the > >> > > > > >> > > space-time > >> > > > > >> > > continuum; we just haven't received the bulletin yet. > > >> > > > > >> > > On Feb 17, 9:38 pm, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > Possibly the only true death penalty/unforgivable crime > >> > > > > >> > > > category: the > >> > > > > >> > > > poaching of fellow primates and destruction of habitat > >> > > > > >> > > > for our > >> > > > > >> > > > cousins. How long until we are the only african ape? Too > >> > > > > >> > > > damn long for > >> > > > > >> > > > poachers and witch-doctors. > > >> > > > > >> > > >http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/science/02/17/endangered.species/index.h... > > >> > > > > >> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >> > > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > >> > > > > > -- > >> > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > >> > > > > > Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. > >> > > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > > > > > [email protected]. > >> > > > > > For more options, visit this group > >> > > > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.-Hidequotedtext- > > >> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >> > - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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