How come that you, Lee, decide for us what the norm for humans and
their respective faith is?

I don't have a problem with the faith/science destinction. Little
Science historically evolved from what was then subsumed under The Big
Faith. Very simply speaking. There was science then and there is faith
now. There is spontanous action and there is reasoned action. This
matter is too banal to contemplate on, if you ask me.  What interests
me is how much us humans have forgotten or have been made forgotten
and why.

On Feb 26, 11:26 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hey Chris,
>
> Yep indeed that is one of the claims that I regularly make.  Well
> almost.  I wouldn't call science faith based, I would though say that
> the knowledge we gather on a personal level has some element of faith
> in it.
>
> I say this though not in an angy triumphent voice (at least I don't
> think I do, please do let me know if I do), nor do I say it because
> I'm trying to equate religion and science, it's more as a defense
> agianst those who tell me that religious faith is an unreasonable
> supposition.
>
> I have no problems in admiting this, and admitedly that was not always
> the case. Infact it was a converation with our Chris a few years back
> that made me revaulate my stance.  The point I always seek to make
> when this one pops out of my mouth (or fingers perhaps) is simply
> this.
>
> Us humans act both on faith based ideas and logical well reasoned
> ideas.  I like to say this and watch how some non belivers go almost
> volcanic in denial of  this 'truth'.  The normal kind of rebutal is
> along the lines of 'religous faith is not the same as other types of
> faith'  and yes that is probably correct but it is not the issue.
>
> The isssue is we all have some kinds of fiath, and it is quite normal
> for us to be this way.  No if you wish to subdivided faith into little
> tiny pieces and claim that this makes a massive differance, be my
> guests, I won't only not belive you, but I'll be thinking 'wow look
> how defensive he has just gotten, hit a nerve perhaps'?
>
> A quickly snapped out denial in in such a mannor to me looks much like
> intectual dishonesty.
>
> I have some faith, you have some faith, she does , he does, we all
> do.  Just 'fess up' and admit it okay?

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