god spot? It is nothing more than an electro-chemical reaction. Because the various portions of the brain control various aspects of our bodies and senses, of course each part that is hyper or under stimulated will affect certain, specific, feelings, thoughts, emotions, senses, pains, pleasures, etc..
On Feb 26, 2:30 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > That shows us a possible mechinism Fidds, but does not show how or why > it happens. > > We have posited some sort of 'God spot' in the brain, now why is it > there? > > On 25 Feb, 16:43, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Not "life after death" being replicated, only the experience that > > people describe as life after death. A small electrical stimulus can > > make you feel as if you are floating out of body, or that some > > powerful being is looking over your shoulder, etc.. > > > On Feb 25, 8:23 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > You would have to provide some evidence of lab replication of life > > > after death. Many scientific studies don't really prove anything > > > beyond the ability to demonstrate. Your making broad statements as if > > > "all" things have reached the point of no longer being scientifically > > > questionable. Religion and spirituality may be interpreted on > > > different levels. I don't see that all mysteries have been resolved > > > in laboratories. > > > > On Feb 25, 10:07 am, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I think that this is primarily due to technology allowing us to > > > > measure ideas in new and informative ways. Where emotion was once > > > > mysterious and "spiritual," we can now induce emotion and study how > > > > the brain reacts during emotions. Where "life after death" experiences > > > > were once thought of as some kind of proof for religious "truth", we > > > > can now replicate the experience in a lab and have removed the > > > > mystery. > > > > > Just as "god dunnit" was once the answer to nearly every idea we > > > > couldn't yet understand, the soul was the answer to any experience or > > > > idea that wasn't felt to be studyable. Now that we can replicate, turn > > > > off, study, and demonstrate these emotional and spiritual ideas, and > > > > can prove that they are brain related rather than some souls evidence, > > > > religion has less and less domain to claim for it's own. > > > > > On Feb 25, 7:59 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > “… What has been thousands of years in the making will take thousands > > > > > of years to undo, if in fact it can ever be undone.” – SD > > > > > > Actually Slip, I find it interesting that religion asks different > > > > > questions than does, say, science. Yes, there is some crossover, yet > > > > > over the years, the very purview of science has changed…expanding and > > > > > now including areas and notions historically left to other areas of > > > > > study. Things change, including how we group areas of interest. > > > > > > On Feb 25, 7:18 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > It will take more than science and atheists to quell thousands of > > > > > > years of religious belief. Certainly it is unreasonable to think > > > > > > that > > > > > > on account of scientific revelation people would simply muffle their > > > > > > voices and discontinue engaging in religious and spiritual > > > > > > practices. > > > > > > Some Indians are still doing a peyote driven rain dance and other > > > > > > cultures still believe a Sun Eating Dragon causes a Solar Eclipse. > > > > > > Scientific explanations don't get these people to just come out of > > > > > > their house during an eclipse. Creationism has yet to be > > > > > > absolutely > > > > > > disproved by any theoretical or scientific model. The simple > > > > > > scientific fact that other universes exist raises the question of > > > > > > "what exists in them". > > > > > > I wouldn't view them Duggars as "terrifyingly nasty" people. I > > > > > > think > > > > > > I'd opt to spend the day at a picnic with the Duggars than to spend > > > > > > the day in the ghettos of east Los Angeles with the slime bags that > > > > > > live there. I don't hate people because they believe in something > > > > > > that I think is nonsense and I think it would be better to try to > > > > > > convince them of their false ideas than to organize my own 'anti' > > > > > > group. What has been thousands of years in the making will take > > > > > > thousands of years to undo, if in fact it can ever be undone. > > > > > > > On Feb 25, 1:00 am, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Another note on these freaks that pretend to be intelligent, and > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > duggers... you know... the ones that want to personally breed an > > > > > > > entire nation of people that cannot accept the natural world. > > > > > > > What a > > > > > > > terrifyingly nasty group of morons... no I didn't forget an "m." > > > > > > > >http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/02/the_duggars_visit_the_crea... > > > > > > > > On Feb 23, 8:44 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I think Orn was just joking or mocking. Your much too bent on > > > > > > > > seriousness fidd, ease up and chill out on the laughs. > > > > > > > > > On Feb 23, 7:08 pm, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > These are scientists in the same manner that my cat is a > > > > > > > > > doorknob. I > > > > > > > > > don't know why you want to insult hundreds of thousands of > > > > > > > > > perfectly > > > > > > > > > ethical and intelligent scientists by comparing them to these > > > > > > > > > creationists. > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 23, 12:01 pm, ornamentalmind > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps we should bring the scientists in on this.... > > > > > > > > > > ;-)http://creationmuseum.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 23, 10:13 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Well my friend, there is no more proof of non existence > > > > > > > > > > > than there is > > > > > > > > > > > for existence. Still contending the source as > > > > > > > > > > > imaginative mind > > > > > > > > > > > melting and human conjuring, I don't discount the > > > > > > > > > > > mystique of life. > > > > > > > > > > > If the origination had remained intact and consistent > > > > > > > > > > > throughout > > > > > > > > > > > history and the heinous atrocities never transpired > > > > > > > > > > > perhaps there > > > > > > > > > > > would be no atheists, or very few. But that religious > > > > > > > > > > > beliefs > > > > > > > > > > > ramified throughout time to the point of the current > > > > > > > > > > > chaos it seems > > > > > > > > > > > understandably wise to just step back out of the way and > > > > > > > > > > > just watch > > > > > > > > > > > the pandemonium from the safety of the side lines. It > > > > > > > > > > > can get to be a > > > > > > > > > > > lonely world out there when the majority of believers > > > > > > > > > > > ostracize those > > > > > > > > > > > who don't ascribe. Much of the attraction to religion > > > > > > > > > > > stems from the > > > > > > > > > > > need to socialize and network, to identify with others > > > > > > > > > > > who find peace > > > > > > > > > > > and security within the confines of the belief. > > > > > > > > > > > Gods don't need to write books, humans need to write > > > > > > > > > > > books and now we > > > > > > > > > > > need to put together CD's and DVD's. Why would a god > > > > > > > > > > > that has the > > > > > > > > > > > capability of creating the entire universe have to speak > > > > > > > > > > > out through a > > > > > > > > > > > book written by a man or have to become a human through a > > > > > > > > > > > virgin birth > > > > > > > > > > > only to be tortured and killed in order to free "humans" > > > > > > > > > > > from their > > > > > > > > > > > sins, the ones they were born with, whatever they are. > > > > > > > > > > > For me most > > > > > > > > > > > beliefs are like the superstitions of old gray haired > > > > > > > > > > > sheep herders in > > > > > > > > > > > the hills of afghanistan. I drive a car, fly airplanes, > > > > > > > > > > > have cell > > > > > > > > > > > phones, televisions, microwave ovens, digital and laser > > > > > > > > > > > technology, > > > > > > > > > > > have access to advanced medicines and we've landed a man > > > > > > > > > > > on the moon, > > > > > > > > > > > have satellites and space ships with numerous scientific > > > > > > > > > > > gadgetry on > > > > > > > > > > > board, so "WHY" would I want to waste my time getting > > > > > > > > > > > involved with > > > > > > > > > > > some ancient scriptural ideologies written by ignorant > > > > > > > > > > > backwards > > > > > > > > > > > people who shit in a hole in the sand and buried it like > > > > > > > > > > > a cat? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 23, 11:34 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meh! As I say in my first post what interest this one > > > > > > > > > > > > will have for > > > > > > > > > > > > the athiest I really don't know. Take it as read my > > > > > > > > > > > > freind that I > > > > > > > > > > > > belive that God exists and so any post relating to 'my > > > > > > > > > > > > invisible > > > > > > > > > > > > friend' none existance is counter productive to this > > > > > > > > > > > > particular > > > > > > > > > > > > debate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > It may happen that in the fullness of time I may well > > > > > > > > > > > > 'do an Ian'. It > > > > > > > > > > > > may not, who can see into the future? > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right though all of human exeriance and all > > > > > > > > > > > > ideas are > > > > > > > > > > > > subjective, however with religoin there really is > > > > > > > > > > > > nothing else that is > > > > > > > > > > > > comparible, so it is quite literaly a branch of thought > > > > > > > > > > > > out there on > > > > > > > > > > > > it's own. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 23 Feb, 17:25, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lee; > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can a message transcend that of culture when the > > > > > > > > > > > > > fact is that the > > > > > > > > > > > > > entire concept of deity existence is a product of > > > > > > > > > > > > > culture and simply > > > > > > > > > > > > > exists within the minds of humanity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Note: The addition of the letter o to the word God > > > > > > > > > > > > > gives us Good and > > > > > > > > > > > > > the addition of the letter d to the word Evil gives > > > > > > > > > > > > > us Devil. Hence > > > > > > > > > > > > > we have the primary basis of any belief, the obvious > > > > > > > > > > > > > difference of > > > > > > > > > > > > > good and evil portrayed by representations of a god > > > > > > > > > > > > > and a devil and > > > > > > > > > > > > > perceived to be separate entities in a constant state > > > > > > > > > > > > > of confrontation > > > > > > > > > > > > > and entanglement in pursuit of the aligned > > > > > > > > > > > > > capitulation of all > > > > > > > > > > > > > humanity to one or the other. This of course has > > > > > > > > > > > > > resulted in > > > > > > > > > > > > > humanity's constant state of dichotomous deity > > > > > > > > > > > > > beliefs which are more > > > > > > > > > > > > > numerous than existing cultures. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The fact that any human belief or for that matter any > > > > > > > > > > > > > human 'Idea' is > > > > > > > > > > > > > contingent upon mans subjectivity therefore > > ... > > read more » -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
