On 3 Mar, 16:51, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > Actually, there was a specific sect that felt Ra to be the all- > important and the other egyptian gods to be merely helpers. Just > because I reference a deity, does not mean that I'm referencing the > largest known base of worshippers beliefs. > > As for being wrong, you're argument seems to be nothing more than > pascale's moronic wager. "If I'm wrong" then I'm being mean to others > so I should be nice and support every mythology I can find? >
So, basically, it's your own pride, then, that's the issue at stake, if Pascal's wager is too costly for you. I had already come to that conclusion, but it's better if you state it yourself, even if you do try to disguise it. There a part of me, like that similar part of you, that kind of feels sorry for you. But, I know that if I'm wrong, I've lost nothing, whereas you lose everything. As for being 'nice', I would have thought that an 'ethical' issue and not related to theism in any way, yet you link the two. Interesting...if not confounding. Rather, you should endeavour to think carefully before uttering any wish for others and think about the possible consequences when you KNOW that your own beliefs are based on the same profound lack of empirical evidence as those whom you seem to view as 'the opposition'. Not to mention 'equal and opposite reactions' that you know you can count on. > On Mar 3, 4:33 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 2 Mar, 17:48, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > No, I don't fear an afterlife. I generally don't engage in the "what > > > if" because far too many people say "AH HA, See! You do think about > > > it!!" or some other silly statement. > > > I will make an exception for you. > > > > If Ra is found to be true and calls me to accounting, I will fair > > > poorly. I'm photo-sensitive and generally don't like the sun. I'm also > > > far more comfortable in cold temperatures than hot. I think that he > > > wouldn't appreciate me much. > > > Good answer. Although it was a nice turn-of-play to name a particular > > deity and draw a comparison, you seem to forget that Ra doesn't judge > > in the Egyptian Mythos, that comes down to Anubis, who weighs your > > heart against the feather of truth (Maat) LONG before you'd get the > > chance to see Ra. If you're going to argue within a mythos, then you > > should, at least, know enough about it to employ it properly. But > > then, I wouldn't really expect you to come across intellectually > > regarding those things about which you, admittedly, know little about. > > > That said, I gave some thought about your statement "My only impotent > > wish (prayer) is that there would be a period just before death that > > religious people could realise that life is just over and no sky- > > fairie will justify a wasted existence." I get from that that you > > would prefer people to come to YOUR senses rather than come to their > > own. However, you've failed to consider that your own belief may, > > 'just as' easily be erroneous, as it, too, is based on no evidence. > > Consider, for a moment that you are, in fact, wrong. To hold such a > > wish would be to deprive the masses of the one thing that can help > > them for all eternity and THAT is about the most heinous and cold- > > hearted desire that I think I've ever read on this group. Top ratings > > for that. > > > Remember, Anubis weighs the heart and, if it doesn't weigh evenly, > > your heart is passed to Ammit, the Devourer of Souls, where she may > > either eat it (forcing you to die a second death) or cast it into a > > lake of fire in which you would burn eternally. Not too much > > different from modern concepts of Hell. > > > > On Mar 2, 9:26 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 19 Feb, 19:46, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > No, I don't. You keep saying this to quite a few people, it seems true > > > > > for none of them. I do not pray I'm right anymore than I pray to avoid > > > > > menopause or ovarian cancer. Not only is there more evidence that I'm > > > > > correct (thus removing the silliness of prayer from the equation), > > > > > there is no evidence at all for souls, gods, fairies, or onenesses. My > > > > > only impotent wish (prayer) is that there would be a period just > > > > > before death that religious people could realise that life is just > > > > > over and no sky-fairie will justify a wasted existence. > > > > > My statement had a little smiling face indicating I was jibing you. I > > > > expect that your wish, then, will fall on deaf ears. Do you fear an > > > > afterlife? Assuming, for argument's sake, that there is one, how do > > > > you think you'd fare? > > > > > > On Feb 19, 3:40 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > On 18 Feb, 15:20, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > no there won't > > > > > > > So you pray!! ;-) > > > > > > > > On Feb 18, 5:03 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 18 Feb, 04:25, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > sorry slip, I'm not a theist. I don't give up because a > > > > > > > > > bronze age > > > > > > > > > goatherder said so or take some schizophrenics word for > > > > > > > > > complete > > > > > > > > > knowledge of "truth." I did hear that a oneness said > > > > > > > > > something or > > > > > > > > > other to a guy named firm-palm-touch... of course that > > > > > > > > > particular > > > > > > > > > theist won't publish the idea in a peer-reviewed journal... > > > > > > > > > That would, of course, be because there isn't a peer-review > > > > > > > > table of > > > > > > > > existing, recognised prophets. Don't waste time on being sorry > > > > > > > > you're > > > > > > > > not a theist now, Fidd. There'll be plenty of time for that > > > > > > > > later. ;-) > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 17, 7:52 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't really matter fidd, we're only heading toward a > > > > > > > > > > nuclear > > > > > > > > > > holocaust anyway and the threat of such is currently > > > > > > > > > > escalating. > > > > > > > > > > Haven't you heard? It's already documented in the > > > > > > > > > > space-time > > > > > > > > > > continuum; we just haven't received the bulletin yet. > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 17, 9:38 pm, fiddler <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Possibly the only true death penalty/unforgivable crime > > > > > > > > > > > category: the > > > > > > > > > > > poaching of fellow primates and destruction of habitat > > > > > > > > > > > for our > > > > > > > > > > > cousins. How long until we are the only african ape? Too > > > > > > > > > > > damn long for > > > > > > > > > > > poachers and witch-doctors. > > > > > > > > > > > >http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/science/02/17/endangered.species/index.h... > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
