I would enjoy pictures too, Alan, and by the way - welcome back!

On Mar 3, 11:53 am, Doris Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote:
>   I would like to see the pictures of the well and your last travel visit
> that you were talking about.  You may send it on my post here..dj
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On 2 Mar, 18:48, Doris Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > This is true.  It has happen many times(that is turning evil away)evil is
> > > evil.  People are People.  dj
>
> > Thus the old hypothetical question "Is killing a child wrong?"  Well,
> > it depends on who that child is and what they might do when older.  If
> > the child were to grow up to become a world leader responsible for the
> > deaths of millions of innocent people (and there have been several!!),
> > then a 'seemingly evil act' can actually be a 'good act'.  But, of
> > course, that takes knowledge of the future, which none of us have.
> > Nevertheless, it's an example of how an evil act can be turned into a
> > good act.
>
> > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Pat <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > On 2 Mar, 15:24, Doris Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > I heard this before:  There is the cart then the horse and a carrot
> > > > dangling
> > > > > in front of the horse.  I do have a hard time at times to see bad in
> > > > people
> > > > > that I meet..dj
>
> > > > So do I.  But then I know that any 'seeming evil' can be turned into
> > > > good at a time that we don't see (and vice versa, of course); so it's
> > > > best to leave judgement to the One who sees all.
>
> > > > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Pat <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On 1 Mar, 19:48, Doris Briscoe <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Me: to me is a center of a person and spreads out beyond his or
> > her
> > > > self.
> > > > > >  I
> > > > > > > do not think there is not one person on this earth that has lived
> > > > just
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > their self, at least I have not ran into this or seen this.
> >  People
> > > > will
> > > > > > > touch others one way or another.  It is going to be a good thing
> > or
> > > > it
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > be bad and the good will always leave a great impression in ones
> > > > mind.
> > > > > >  dj
>
> > > > > > Yes, but seemingly bad things can actually turn out good and vice
> > > > > > versa.  Without knowing the full context, our judgements are
> > unclear
> > > > > > at best.
>
> > > > > > Also, as food for thought: Are we drawn to something because we see
> > it
> > > > > > as good or do we see something as good because we are drawn to it?
> > > > > > Which is the cart and which is the horse?
>
> > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Pat <
> > [email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On 20 Feb, 05:17, Ash <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > I think I would like to be myself, with the feeling that I am
> > > > living
> > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > > my purpose. How great, but who and what that is, I wonder...
>
> > > > > > > > You are.  I can guarantee that.  You will only know all the
> > details
> > > > on
> > > > > > > > your last day.  And you may not know it's your last day until
> > the
> > > > last
> > > > > > > > second.  Nevertheless, there is no doubt that you are
> > fulfilling
> > > > your
> > > > > > > > purpose.  That's been another one of those 'secrets' that was
> > > > revealed
> > > > > > > > by Special Relativity and the concept of a space-time
> > continuum.
> > > >  All
> > > > > > > > that you will do is already a part of it and you are just
> > > > perceiving
> > > > > > > > the motion from some parts of it to the next due to the
> > expansion
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > space-time.  So, realise that you ARE fulfilling your purpose.
> > > >  BUT,
> > > > > > > > are you doing everything that you would like to do?  Are there
> > > > changes
> > > > > > > > that you could make to better your life or the lives of others?
> >  If
> > > > > > > > so, what can you do to move yourself towards accomplishing
> > that?
> > > >  Self-
> > > > > > > > motivation is the key.  If you want to get to point B, then you
> > > > must
> > > > > > > > move towards it.
>
> > > > > > > > > There is much purpose I could derive from my understanding of
> > > > things
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > meaning from my experiences. It seems there is an
> > overabundance
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > > opinions on matters and directions to follow which makes it
> > > > difficult
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > develop a sense of continuity. There are some powerful
> > practical
> > > > > > > > > worldviews out there, but I've seen them as dangerous like a
> > > > prison
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > the mind. There are many things I would not like to be and
> > have
> > > > > > plenty
> > > > > > > > > of first hand examples in mind. There must be more than
> > avoiding
> > > > pain
> > > > > > > > > and suffering, or seeking power and dominance though they may
> > > > provide
> > > > > > > > > valuable lessons about a larger picture.
>
> > > > > > > > > I would like to embrace my potentials, freely navigate
> > possible
> > > > > > paths,
> > > > > > > > > augment my limitations, overcome my challenges all while
> > being
> > > > true
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > the self (knowledge, memories, feelings, needs, desires,
> > values).
> > > > I
> > > > > > > > > think this cannot be done by supressing myself but with
> > > > affirmative
> > > > > > > > > compassion and rational analysis of the self. Too much
> > experience
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > the former makes this a struggle, but since there were
> > reasons
> > > > for
> > > > > > > > > taking that path I have to determine its meaning and seek
> > > > > > > > > reconciliation. From this process might arise an answer to
> > your
> > > > > > question.
>
> > > > > > > > Yup. you're on the right track alright.  You must accept that
> > which
> > > > > > > > has been yet still strive towards where you want to be.
> > > >  Irrespective,
> > > > > > > > you WILL fulfill your purpose.  Have no doubt of that.  In
> > fact,
> > > > you
> > > > > > > > couldn't avoid it if you tried.
>
> > > > > > > > > On 2/18/2010 9:27 AM, Molly wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Expanding Identities
>
> > > > > > > > > > Who am I?
>
> > > > > > > > > > How you answer that question says a lot, not just about how
> > you
> > > > see
> > > > > > > > > > yourself, but also about how you see others and how you
> > relate
> > > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > world. And it s an important question at this time in
> > history
> > > > when
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > challenges of our global community are drawing us out of
> > > > limited
> > > > > > > > > > identities based on "me" and "mine" into identities based
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > "we"
> > > > > > > > > > of the whole planet.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Identities help us find our way in the world, navigate
> > > > challenges
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > make choices. They can be founded on anything from the
> > color of
> > > > our
> > > > > > > > > > skin or religious orientation, to goals we have achieved or
> > > > dreams
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > hold. Often during times of stress those boundaries can
> > > > contract
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > tighten we protect what is ours more rigorously and
> > separate
> > > > > > ourselves
> > > > > > > > > > from the needs of others.
>
> > > > > > > > > > But times of struggle can also be motivation to expand our
> > > > > > boundaries.
> > > > > > > > > > Instead of contracting around our own needs, we can open to
> > the
> > > > > > needs
> > > > > > > > > > of others, share resources, and choose to cooperate. As we
> > do
> > > > so,
> > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > > > identities shift and the separation between "me" and "you"
> > or
> > > > "us"
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > "them" seems less compelling and defining. But how can this
> > > > happen?
> > > > > > > > > > Where do we start?
>
> > > > > > > > > > Its not easy letting go of strong identifications, opening
> > to
> > > > those
> > > > > > > > > > who are different than us, or finding ways to share
> > resources
> > > > and
> > > > > > live
> > > > > > > > > > together peacefully. Expanding our identities is our
> > choice,
> > > > and
> > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > > > imperative. We can restrict ourselves around a small "me"
> > or
> > > > around
> > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > > impenetrable group boundary. Or we can discover ways to
> > relate
> > > > more
> > > > > > > > > > deeply to others and life itself. It may be that not only
> > our
> > > > own
> > > > > > > > > > wellbeing, but the long-term viability of the entire earth
> > is
> > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > stake. It is up to each of us to answer and live the
> > question,
> > > > > > moment
> > > > > > > > > > by moment: Who would I like to be?
>
> >http://www.globalonenessproject.org/themes/expanding-identities
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