Ah - beyond questions and answers.  Nicely done.

On Mar 8, 11:22 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > On 7 Mar, 09:54, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Hoi Molly  now there is a question I have been pondering,
> > > Confucius said years ago that to be in the presence of ones God is to be
> > in
> > > heaven. I also believe that the entirety of the universe is made from the
> > > essence of God as I understand him. This makes me part of God but it does
> > > not make me God. Because Everything is made from the essence of God this
> > > connection creates a special bond between myself and God. This special
> > > conection also applies to everything else, whether we want to admit to it
> > or
> > > not. It also creates a special bond between each other. a quote comes to
> > > mind "Ask not for whom the bell tolls for it tolls for thee."
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> > > Logic follows that because I am in the presence of my God as I understand
> > > him. I must be in heaven. I also believe that when we die we return this
> > > physical body to our creator (God) and go through a resurrection into a
> > new
> > > life. Now the catch comes, how we respond to our world (God) in this life
> > > determines the quality of our life in the next life. and there will be no
> > > hiding or denying our position.
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> > > *Rejoice for the kingdom of God is with us today!!!*
> > > Allan
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> > Your position is very similar to mine, although what you call
> > 'essence' I refer to as 'energy'.  I do that for a very good reason,
> > though.  Science has no problem with energy as being 'neither created
> > nor destroyed' yet it has a problem with a God that is defined in the
> > same way.  But, as you say, if one is made of the other, then the
> > difference is terminological semantics.
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> You are right a problem of how you express the concept  as it is not an easy
> one to express..
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> >  As for this "how we
> > respond...determining the quality of our life in the next life"
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> I do not see it as  the next life   because it is just a continuation of
> this life.. you no longer have your physical body because you return it to
> the creator .
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> > , that is a very Islamic concept.
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> It is not just Islamic and they did not originate it..
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> >  If string theory is true, it allows for
> > us, as physical bodies, to exist throughout these other non space-time
> > dimensions and move through them as we move through those we sense.
> > So, you're not far off there, either, although I wouldn't say that you
> > are IN heaven, just that you pass through it (and hell) while you
> > exist here, although at a level which is completely undetectable.  The
> > bond of which you speak, I refer to as "that we are an extension of
> > the energy that is" and that that energy is God's, as there is nothing
> > else.  As for your last statement, how can you hide from that which is
> > omnipresent and how can you hide your knowledge from God when it isn't
> > your knowledge, but His, that you have?  The fact that the space-time
> > continum contains a permanent record of all that we have done is a
> > clear enough record to refer to and it will last for all time...by
> > definition.
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> > Pat  To me the only important thing is God and my relationship with him and
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> how to enhance it.. It is enough for me, my experience is that many people
> try to explain what they can not explain the result is a mess of confusing
> beliefs I think that is because they do not  know what they are talking
> about. For me I am in love with my God as I understand him  and am willing
> to share what I know.
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> Over the years He (non gender) has show me wonders beyond what I could even
> imagine. It is hard to express sometimes what has happened..  I know God is
> real,, and I know everyone else has exactly the same connection..  there is
> a lot to be said..  but I really have few questions,,  the problem with me
> is if I ask   the answers tend to come..  the next question is do I really
> want the answer.
> Allan
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> > > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > On Mar 6, 12:06 pm, Molly <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > "WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE IS TRUE EVEN THOUGH YOU CANNOT PROVE IT?"
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> > > > > Great minds can sometimes guess the truth before they have either the
> > > > > evidence or arguments for it (Diderot called it having the "esprit de
> > > > > divination"). What do you believe is true even though you cannot
> > prove
> > > > > it?
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> > > > This clip is better!
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> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqViPnpVs54&feature=related
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> > > > dj
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