On 11 Mar, 16:30, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Alternatively, you've got the cart before the horse.  We humans have
> > knowledge because a subset of God's all-encompassing knowledge is
> > afforded us by Him.  <<Pat
>
> Supposition entirely and from where you proceed in order to construct
> the rest of the design.  Knowledge 'afforded' us would in that account
> be more uniform, unilateral without discrepancy or the conflict of
> false knowledge and true knowledge as in the case of Gallileo and
> reveal itself to be more so, instinctive knowledge.  

Not if you aren't afforded that.  And galileo was afforded what he was
afforded.

>We have in record
> perceived and calculated knowledge by experience, subsequently failing
> at times to perceive actual truths and bounding forward on faulty
> conjecture until, through alternate experience, truth emerged.  

Therefore demonstrating our limited knowledge.

>We
> can't simply dismiss or disregard thousands of years of floundering on
> myths and notions in an attempt to establish the Harrington Theorem of
> deity knowledge which postulates an imparting of human knowledge by a
> third party source presented as the gate keeper of all knowledge.


Which is not my postulate.  Rather, I postulate that the One created
us as third party items where He is the one reality that holds the lot
and that lot exceed the addition of our allotments.

> Further allowing this persuasion to continue as even remotely valid I
> would assume that the gate keeper is in utter bliss and ecstasy by
> withholding knowledge that would alleviate a great deal of death and
> suffering at the hands of horrid diseases.  

You would find no cures if there were no diseases.  Think a little
about that.

>Perhaps you can initiate a
> petition to spare all our lives by "affording" us the knowledge of
> "Cures".  

If my petitions are accepted, it would only be by His permission.  Do
you accept that you are diseased?  If so, I'll ask for the cure.  ;-)
And why, for one, do you think that I would want to cure all
diseases?  That would, by your logic, rob us of the pleasure of
finding the cures ourselves (by my logic, having that knowledge when
it is dispensed).  Personally, I'd rather solve world hunger than cure
all known diseases.  Or bring peace ot the Middle East.

>Snap!  Back to reality and the understanding that we have
> developed our own storehouse of knowledge through experience,
> discovery and experiment.  Our conglomeration of knowledge is
> continually augmented by new experience, discovery and experiment not
> by the secretion of allowable ability to learn.


And, you'd be able to prove that?  No more so than I can.  So, at best
and at worst, it's a stalemate.  But your 'storehouse' of knowledge'
is somehow separate from God's knowledge, whereas mine allows for no
separation, rather, an appearance of one.

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