I'm certainly not pulling anything out of my ass. << Chris

Let's hope not but if you do try to keep it locked up in a safe place!

On Mar 27, 10:28 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I think those that are guilty should step down, not the "whole lot of
> > them". >SD
>
> > There is a disproportionately high (in relation to
> > the population) number of pedophiles, in position of power, with
> > direct
> > access to and authority over, children. << Chris
>
> > Disproportionate by what information/statistic?  In relation to the
> > Population based on what data/figures?  What hat did you pull this out
>
> I haven't pulled it out of anything, Slip. Part of the numbers are indeed
> difficult to substantiate, because of the aggressive cover up by the
> Vatican. 3300 charges were never followed up on due to the priest in
> question already being dead. Additionally, it's estimated that there are
> twice as many substantiated cases unreported due to the authoritative nature
> of the priest. I'll provide some rough numbers below, however, to give you a
> basis where I've started. The point here is not just the offender in
> question; it's the organizational structure, well documented, all the way up
> to the Pope, who hide those crimes, and the offender.
>
> Number of catholic priests worldwide: 400,000 and change.
>
> http://www.allaboutreligion.org/catholic-priests.htm
>
> Number of priests against whom allegations have been substantiated (not the
> total number actually who have committed said crimes: just under 4400.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases#Scope_and_nature
>
> Proportion: 1.5%
>
> Percent of pedophiles who are religious: 93%
>
> http://www.childmolestationprevention.org/pages/tell_others_the_facts...
>
> Estimated total population who are pedophiles: 4% (which defends your
> question to me).
>
> http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Pedophilia
>
> However, it's the number of victims where the numbers become clearly
> disproportionate:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iogaM1XnA0I   Over 10,000.
>
> Every priest who has been investigated has had between 20-200 victims.
>
> It's difficult to quantify hard numbers given the secrecy and cover ups, but
> I'm certainly not pulling anything out of my ass.
>
> > of?
>
> > How large is the Catholic community?   70 million registered Catholics
> > in 2010, just in the US.
>
> > Those in charge are people just like the rest and should be tried
> > accordingly under whatever jurisprudence they are held accountable
> > to.  To make a statement like "...the whole lot of them" clearly
> > exposes a biased anti-religious sentiment and denies the innocence of
> > many members of religious clergy.
>
> > The news has been littered with numerous teacher sex scandals and
> > abuses; should we ask all teachers, the "whole lot of them", to step
> > down?
>
> > Walmart?  lmao!  Please Chris, Walmart is one of the most corrupt
> > companies in the world.
>
> > Excerpt;
>
> > ...........calling on Wal-Mart to end its politically corrupt
> > practices, including donating to corrupt politicians and participating
> > in a sweetheart deal with the Bush administration on child labor
> > violations.
> >http://wakeupwalmart.com/feature/delay/
>
> > ..........Wal-Mart  squeezes and cheats its employees, among them:
> > blocking union organizing efforts, paying employees an average $8.23
> > an hour (as compared to more than $10 for an average supermarket
> > worker), allegedly extracting off-the-clock work, and providing
> > inadequate and unaffordable healthcare packages for employees.
>
> > “There's no question that Wal-Mart imposes a huge, often hidden, cost
> > on its workers, our communities and U.S. taxpayers,” Miller said. “And
> > Wal-Mart is in the driver's seat in the global race to the bottom,
> > suppressing wage levels, workplace protections and labor laws.”
>
> >http://www.corporatenarc.com/walmartscandal.php
>
> >http://www.changetowin.org/connect/2009/06/the_hidden_cost_of_4.html
>
> > On Mar 27, 8:43 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > With Massive Attack, no less! Brilliant, Gabs, thank you for sharing.
>
> > > To answer Slip's question about rationality, I disagree strongly that
> > this
> > > is a "Few bad apples". There is a disproportionately high (in relation to
> > > the population) number of pedophiles, in position of power, with direct
> > > access to and authority over, children. Additionally, the "management",
> > all
> > > the way to the executive level (Pope), have engaged in misdirection and
> > > cover up. Worse, not one single one of these bastards has been arrested.
> > > They are protected by the Holy See.
>
> > > If even 1% of Store Managers across the country at Wal-Mart had been
> > > molesting children, the executive board of Wal-Mart would have done a
> > major
> > > purge,  permanently banning them from working for the organization, and
> > > pushed for their incarceration. It's the normal line of PR for an
> > > organization that doesn't support those actions, and wants to be
> > dissociated
> > > from them. The Vatican has been such a target not only for their lack of
> > > disciplinary or legal action, but their subsequent cover up, and their
> > utter
> > > lack of dissociation from these events, in some cases, even blaming the
> > > victims themselves. Why does the world's richest corporation get such a
> > free
> > > pass on this?
>
> > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:55 AM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > If only she had gotten more attention. I haven't forgotten the song
> > > > though, which I also stored under "bigland":
> > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFuTEtBGEtk
>
> > > > On 27 Mrz., 04:33, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Rational?  Have you lost your senses?  I think it sounds ridiculous.
> > > > > Why throw away a bushel of apples on account of a few bad ones.
> > > > > Should we dismantle the entire political system because some
> > > > > politicians are butt holes?  Should we stop humanitarian aide because
> > > > > some officials skim money off the top?
>
> > > > > I think she's an attention freak
>
> > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinead_O%27Connor
>
> > > > > On Mar 26, 4:13 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Interestingly enough, today I heard Shanae O’Connor say on the
> > radio
> > > > > > that there should be a criminal investigation of the Pope and the
> > > > > > entire Vatican [most recent pedophilia scandal] that the entire lot
> > > > > > should step down. Sounds rational, what do you think?
>
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