A very apt cure Don. The UK is now too illiterate for burlesque. The clapped-out town I live on the edge of and barely visit since the advent of on-line grocery, has lap dancing and sports topless bars from time to bankruptcy, the best of the worst now long gone. This was Dirty Habits, with topless nuns. We now have 'gentlemen's clubs', which I know only on reputation, from taxi drivers reporting taking whores to them. All this is probably the outcome of the strategic plan of our hapless Council's 'smile capital' initiative. The election has been called, so no doubt we will be promised more of such economic miracles as tits to suck on. Hooters would attract a lot of horn here, but only from car drivers.
On 5 Apr, 05:25, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > Just so long as the UK covers my traveling expenses I'm all for it. Ya'll > do have titty bars over there, yes? I think you call them 'burlesque' clubs > or some such fluffery over there. I say; titties are titties. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ylRplLnU84 > > dj > > > > On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:19 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > Victims of institutional abuse get a very raw deal, but so do victims > > of false complaints. Evidence is very thin on the ground in many > > cases, but in some can be made very clear indeed. Criminal > > investigations are much more limited than most think and legal systems > > are fundamentally skewed well away from truth. More mad people > > (including investigators and forensic 'experts') are involved than we > > admit to. The scale and expense of any real enquiry is daunting. The > > UK has spent £30 million on the Bloody Sunday cover-up and only made > > lawyers richer. Similar millions will be wasted over Iraq. We could > > do this enquiry, but we could also do enquiries into why China is in > > Tibet, Nato in Afghanistan and why rape is so prevalent in South > > Africa and the World Cup there etc. etc. > > In the Baby P case in the UK, we found the bureaucrats did cover-up > > disgracefully, but it's now emerging that the one we sacked may have > > been treated very badly treated in a witch-hunt (not helped by > > pictures that make her look like Cruella de Ville) drummed up by the > > government minister. There is a methodology we could follow and > > people who could do the job, but this would require an openness we > > always shy away from. I think we should go ahead and do the business > > in one specific area as a carte blanche enquiry with no lawyers > > allowed to get in the way and with full, public disclosure. The > > threaten to do this all over the case unless the rest come clean after > > Don and I do the necessary slaying. Pigs might fly of course, but > > there is a more academic way, working with victims and informers in > > confidence and publishing on an anonymous basis. > > > On 29 Mar, 14:13, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I'm not saying that being celibate or trying to be celibate causes or > > even > > > helps bring on the abuse. I'm saying the fact it is a requirement > > attracts > > > individuals that know they have deviant tendencies. These people in many > > > cases have no intention of remaining celibate. The added secrecy of the > > > Papacy, as Orn suggests, is also an attraction. Somehow, a balance with > > > transparency and protecting the innocent needs to be found. Remember > > much > > > damage comes to the accuser as well as the accused. There will always be > > > supporters for the accused that never believe their priest or family > > member > > > or friend could do such a thing and will vilify the whistle blower. It > > can > > > be very damaging to be labeled 'the victim.' Some people live their > > entire > > > lives under this cloak of shame. It's a terrible, horrible crime(rape) > > but > > > against children I consider it worse then murder in many cases. I could > > see > > > a man getting out of prison for killing his cheating wife after 10 or 15 > > > years and not being a threat to society. Child predators should never > > again > > > see the light of day and, imo, should be relieved of their consciousness. > > > > dj > > > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:01 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Removing celibacy requirements is not going to do anything. The acts > > > > with which these individuals are charged are some that take place > > > > within non-clergy, laity, and general population circles. Married > > > > people are often times accused of sexual impropriety with children and > > > > many take liberties with their own. I think what lies at the core of > > > > this pardon policy is the understanding within the church, not only > > > > the RC, that all is forgiven upon "repentance". Even in the judicial > > > > system there are policies that allow for pardon, parole and probation > > > > based on the repentant perpetrator, fact is that one can commit murder > > > > and be released later on to live a normal life while the victim lay > > > > cold in the grave. > > > > > On Mar 28, 10:36 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > If the Blackstone ratio referred to the death penalty I wouldn't have > > > > used > > > > > it. I didn't even say I supported it, I just quoted it to add > > balance > > > > and > > > > > to support my main man Fran. Heck, I think our court system is far > > too > > > > > lenient. Don't put words in my mouth, I don't like it. > > > > > > heh. > > > > > > dj > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 10:22 AM, ornamentalmind > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > “…"It is better to allow 10 guilty men go free then to > > > > > > convict 1 innocent man." …” – dj > > > > > > > I’m glad that you do not support the death penalty at least! > > > > > > > As an aside, just a hypothetical here, but *if* I were one of the > > > > > > accused…and in fact *rightly* accused, I feel quite sure that at > > the > > > > > > next ‘election’ (you know, where people check the smoke color?)…I’d > > > > > > vote for a fellow molester…sort of for safety’s sake…..just sayin’ > > > > > > > On Mar 28, 7:48 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Is that the follically-challenged loud mouth from the 80's? I > > didn't > > > > > > even > > > > > > > know she was still around. I have more respect for people like > > Bono. > > > > He > > > > > > > picks a crusade and stays on target without name calling or > > agitprop. > > > > He > > > > > > > appeals to the masses to get the aid to the people that need it > > while > > > > > > giving > > > > > > > props when due even to those he disagrees with politically. Plus > > > > he's in > > > > > > a > > > > > > > good band which is more then I can say for the hairless wonder. > > > > > > > > But to get on topic. I have long thought that the practice of > > > > requiring > > > > > > > celibacy ATTRACTS sexual deviants. Simply by removing this > > > > ridiculous > > > > > > > requirement, I think, would vastly improve the situation. > > However, > > > > the > > > > > > > topic seems to be more about the cover up then the actual abuse > > so... > > > > My > > > > > > > supposition is that the Pope was trying to prevent innocent > > priests > > > > from > > > > > > > getting falsely accused and to protect those that had already > > been > > > > > > falsely > > > > > > > accused from being ruined. Like most good people, he has > > difficulty > > > > > > > believing this could happen in his own house to the degree it has > > > > been > > > > > > > happening. Rather then Chris' biased view that the abuse is > > > > rampantly > > > > > > > under-reported I believe the dude in the funny hat thought the > > > > opposite. > > > > > > > > Also, for those of you calling for the gallows, let me remind you > > > > about > > > > > > the > > > > > > > old judicial saw, "It is better to allow 10 guilty men go free > > then > > > > to > > > > > > > convict 1 innocent man." Or does this apply when we are speaking > > of > > > > our > > > > > > > children? The problem is with child rape it doesn't matter if > > you're > > > > > > guilty > > > > > > > or not, if you are accused and it becomes public...well basically > > > > your > > > > > > life > > > > > > > is over. Changed forever. The subject is too painful and tragic > > and > > > > > > these > > > > > > > kinds of things are impossible to forgive. I believe this > > weighed on > > > > the > > > > > > > Papist Politburo and influenced the cover up. It doesn't make it > > ok > > > > but, > > > > > > > playing devil's advocate here, I can at least understand. > > > > > > > > dj > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:13 PM, ornamentalmind < > > > > > > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > Interestingly enough, today I heard Shanae O’Connor say on the > > > > radio > > > > > > > > that there should be a criminal investigation of the Pope and > > the > > > > > > > > entire Vatican [most recent pedophilia scandal] that the entire > > lot > > > > > > > > should step down. 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