The last Hooters I saw Orn was in Bahrain. There are better uses for 'spare ribs'.
On 6 Apr, 02:45, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > Ditto archy...and, for the record, our local Hooters closed down long > ago...now is but a BBQ Ribs place. > > On Apr 5, 4:46 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I wouldn't have many qualms about the Pope being nicked for > > bureaucratic crimes against humanity Orn. > > > On 6 Apr, 00:14, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > A very apt cure Don. The UK is now too illiterate for burlesque. The > > > clapped-out town I live on the edge of and barely visit since the > > > advent of on-line grocery, has lap dancing and sports topless bars > > > from time to bankruptcy, the best of the worst now long gone. This > > > was Dirty Habits, with topless nuns. We now have 'gentlemen's clubs', > > > which I know only on reputation, from taxi drivers reporting taking > > > whores to them. All this is probably the outcome of the strategic > > > plan of our hapless Council's 'smile capital' initiative. The > > > election has been called, so no doubt we will be promised more of such > > > economic miracles as tits to suck on. Hooters would attract a lot of > > > horn here, but only from car drivers. > > > > On 5 Apr, 05:25, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Just so long as the UK covers my traveling expenses I'm all for it. > > > > Ya'll > > > > do have titty bars over there, yes? I think you call them 'burlesque' > > > > clubs > > > > or some such fluffery over there. I say; titties are titties. > > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ylRplLnU84 > > > > > dj > > > > > On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 8:19 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Victims of institutional abuse get a very raw deal, but so do victims > > > > > of false complaints. Evidence is very thin on the ground in many > > > > > cases, but in some can be made very clear indeed. Criminal > > > > > investigations are much more limited than most think and legal systems > > > > > are fundamentally skewed well away from truth. More mad people > > > > > (including investigators and forensic 'experts') are involved than we > > > > > admit to. The scale and expense of any real enquiry is daunting. The > > > > > UK has spent £30 million on the Bloody Sunday cover-up and only made > > > > > lawyers richer. Similar millions will be wasted over Iraq. We could > > > > > do this enquiry, but we could also do enquiries into why China is in > > > > > Tibet, Nato in Afghanistan and why rape is so prevalent in South > > > > > Africa and the World Cup there etc. etc. > > > > > In the Baby P case in the UK, we found the bureaucrats did cover-up > > > > > disgracefully, but it's now emerging that the one we sacked may have > > > > > been treated very badly treated in a witch-hunt (not helped by > > > > > pictures that make her look like Cruella de Ville) drummed up by the > > > > > government minister. There is a methodology we could follow and > > > > > people who could do the job, but this would require an openness we > > > > > always shy away from. I think we should go ahead and do the business > > > > > in one specific area as a carte blanche enquiry with no lawyers > > > > > allowed to get in the way and with full, public disclosure. The > > > > > threaten to do this all over the case unless the rest come clean after > > > > > Don and I do the necessary slaying. Pigs might fly of course, but > > > > > there is a more academic way, working with victims and informers in > > > > > confidence and publishing on an anonymous basis. > > > > > > On 29 Mar, 14:13, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I'm not saying that being celibate or trying to be celibate causes > > > > > > or > > > > > even > > > > > > helps bring on the abuse. I'm saying the fact it is a requirement > > > > > attracts > > > > > > individuals that know they have deviant tendencies. These people > > > > > > in many > > > > > > cases have no intention of remaining celibate. The added secrecy > > > > > > of the > > > > > > Papacy, as Orn suggests, is also an attraction. Somehow, a balance > > > > > > with > > > > > > transparency and protecting the innocent needs to be found. > > > > > > Remember > > > > > much > > > > > > damage comes to the accuser as well as the accused. There will > > > > > > always be > > > > > > supporters for the accused that never believe their priest or family > > > > > member > > > > > > or friend could do such a thing and will vilify the whistle blower. > > > > > > It > > > > > can > > > > > > be very damaging to be labeled 'the victim.' Some people live their > > > > > entire > > > > > > lives under this cloak of shame. It's a terrible, horrible > > > > > > crime(rape) > > > > > but > > > > > > against children I consider it worse then murder in many cases. I > > > > > > could > > > > > see > > > > > > a man getting out of prison for killing his cheating wife after 10 > > > > > > or 15 > > > > > > years and not being a threat to society. Child predators should > > > > > > never > > > > > again > > > > > > see the light of day and, imo, should be relieved of their > > > > > > consciousness. > > > > > > > dj > > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 4:01 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Removing celibacy requirements is not going to do anything. The > > > > > > > acts > > > > > > > with which these individuals are charged are some that take place > > > > > > > within non-clergy, laity, and general population circles. Married > > > > > > > people are often times accused of sexual impropriety with > > > > > > > children and > > > > > > > many take liberties with their own. I think what lies at the > > > > > > > core of > > > > > > > this pardon policy is the understanding within the church, not > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > the RC, that all is forgiven upon "repentance". Even in the > > > > > > > judicial > > > > > > > system there are policies that allow for pardon, parole and > > > > > > > probation > > > > > > > based on the repentant perpetrator, fact is that one can commit > > > > > > > murder > > > > > > > and be released later on to live a normal life while the victim > > > > > > > lay > > > > > > > cold in the grave. > > > > > > > > On Mar 28, 10:36 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > If the Blackstone ratio referred to the death penalty I > > > > > > > > wouldn't have > > > > > > > used > > > > > > > > it. I didn't even say I supported it, I just quoted it to add > > > > > balance > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > to support my main man Fran. Heck, I think our court system is > > > > > > > > far > > > > > too > > > > > > > > lenient. Don't put words in my mouth, I don't like it. > > > > > > > > > heh. > > > > > > > > > dj > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 10:22 AM, ornamentalmind > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > “…"It is better to allow 10 guilty men go free then to > > > > > > > > > convict 1 innocent man." …” – dj > > > > > > > > > > I’m glad that you do not support the death penalty at least! > > > > > > > > > > As an aside, just a hypothetical here, but *if* I were one of > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > accused…and in fact *rightly* accused, I feel quite sure that > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > next ‘election’ (you know, where people check the smoke > > > > > > > > > color?)…I’d > > > > > > > > > vote for a fellow molester…sort of for safety’s sake…..just > > > > > > > > > sayin’ > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 28, 7:48 am, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Is that the follically-challenged loud mouth from the 80's? > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > didn't > > > > > > > > > even > > > > > > > > > > know she was still around. I have more respect for people > > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > Bono. > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > > picks a crusade and stays on target without name calling or > > > > > agitprop. > > > > > > > He > > > > > > > > > > appeals to the masses to get the aid to the people that > > > > > > > > > > need it > > > > > while > > > > > > > > > giving > > > > > > > > > > props when due even to those he disagrees with politically. > > > > > > > > > > Plus > > > > > > > he's in > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > good band which is more then I can say for the hairless > > > > > > > > > > wonder. > > > > > > > > > > > But to get on topic. I have long thought that the practice > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > requiring > > > > > > > > > > celibacy ATTRACTS sexual deviants. Simply by removing this > > > > > > > ridiculous > > > > > > > > > > requirement, I think, would vastly improve the situation. > > > > > However, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > topic seems to be more about the cover up then the actual > > > > > > > > > > abuse > > > > > so... > > > > > > > My > > > > > > > > > > supposition is that the Pope was trying to prevent innocent > > > > > priests > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > getting falsely accused and to protect those that had > > > > > > > > > > already > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > falsely > > > > > > > > > > accused from being ruined. Like most good people, he has > > > > > difficulty > > > > > > > > > > believing this could happen in his own house to the degree > > > > > > > > > > it has > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > > > > happening. Rather then Chris' biased view that the abuse is > > > > > > > rampantly > > > > > > > > > > under-reported I believe the dude in the funny hat thought > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > opposite. > > > > > > > > > > > Also, for those of you calling for the gallows, let me > > > > > > > > > > remind you > > > > > > > about > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > old judicial saw, "It is better to allow 10 guilty men go > > > > > > > > > > free > > > > > then > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > convict 1 innocent man." Or does this apply when we are > > > > > > > > > > speaking > > > > > of > > > > > > > our > > > > > > > > > > children? The problem is with child rape it doesn't matter > > > > > > > > > > if > > > > > you're > > > > > > > > > guilty > > > > > > > > > > or not, if you are accused and it becomes public...well > > > > > > > > > > basically > > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > life > > > > > > > > > > is over. Changed forever. The subject is too painful and > > > > > > > > > > tragic > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > these > > > > > > > > > > kinds of things are impossible to forgive. I believe this > > > > > weighed on > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Papist Politburo and influenced the cover up. It doesn't > > > > > > > > > > make it > > > > > ok > > > > > > > but, > > > > > > > > > > playing devil's advocate here, I can at least understand. > > > > > > > > > > > dj > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:13 PM, ornamentalmind < > > > > > > > > > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Interestingly enough, today I heard Shanae O’Connor say > > > > > > > > > > > on the > > ... > > read more » -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. 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