Ancient civilizations did not promise individual rights and freedoms but their power/control presented a certitude and order which could be do-able and pleasant depending on class and caste. The castoffs are still miserable in modern society- democracy or not. It is unrealistic expectations that is the hard pill to swallow in our time or as someone commented in a review of Evelyn Waugh- it is "pointless to expect justice on earth, the ultimate moral reckoning comes only after death" by Slobone- this notion attached to Catholicism, by the way.
On Apr 5, 8:29 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > “…which makes us enemies of each other The state is now bigger than us > mortal beings…” – PSK > > Yet again, I just don’t see it. How is ‘the state’ bigger today than > in, say, the days of Rome?...of ancient Egypt? And, I’m not so sure it > has to do with size either. I’m guessing the issue is perceived > power. . . which, again, I just don’t see as being any more or less > than has been reported in the past > > On Apr 5, 6:56 am, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > In the last post an evolved Mind was being discussed…here’s what I > > think…(it lacks structure...and very naive but please be > > patient ...) > > The Mind continues to evolve….It is a manifestation of the much larger > > Process...The process from which we source the creation of intelligent > > life. When one sees oneself in isolation from the Process arise the > > existential tendencies... An evolved mind I suppose is one with the > > open eye...the Minds eye... (One of the reasons I love this group is > > the great name)…to put it simply there is the higher self and the > > lower self inside everyone...we are constantly pulled down by our > > visceral and basic tendencies (lower self)...and not everyone cares to > > realize their higher self..I guess that’s why great thinkers of the > > past incorporated their ideas into simple doctrines to follow because > > they certainly had an idea of an evolved and enlightened society but > > also knew that not every person is a philosopher so it was propagated > > as religion a lifestyle which would earn you great spiritual dividends… > > of course over time it got corrupted as a means of monopolizing power > > over society by a learned few..That is one of the main problems of our > > society today…we tend to forget the basic idea behind everything…and > > let institutions get bigger than us…what began as an explanation for > > unexplained phenomena (science being not so developed then) and an > > attempt to enforce some moral code, has become bigger than us…rides > > over us and is the plague of our times…a extra and outdated baggage > > from the past…it has outgrown its relevance today…similarly the STATE… > > which began as an attempt to organize social and political life…from > > chiefdoms to countries it has transformed…and with it has grown the > > evil of patriotism(not to mention the violence to determine what is > > the best way to organize political life)…which makes us enemies of > > each other The state is now bigger than us mortal beings…Identities… > > ethnicity…language…caste etc… we seem to need them to validate our > > existence…the burning question of Who am I…I think I went a little off > > the mark… what I want to say is that…The Mind ..Born out of flux > > desperately seeks to find permanence(so its attachment to symbols)…as > > the mind is the smaller functioning unit of the bigger Whole…it also > > tries to establish itself while contributing to the ‘process’…thus > > emerges our ego and sense of ‘self’…the Society is a collective body > > of the individual units…also seeks the same permanence…and so it > > creates institutions and preserves them…Change always comes In some > > kind of revolution(similarly In an enlightened individual…he forms his > > own individual ideas against what he has been brought up believing )…a > > mutilation from the past…but occur it must…because permanency is not > > the natural state of things… > > There are I think certain universal truths which must be and are > > arrived at…these are the key points of our evolution…they are arrived > > at through the smaller individual units…taking the form of Einstein or > > whatever;-)…like Molly mentioned communication is a very imp. Factor > > for growth…the Mind does not grow in isolation…the society is really a > > two way street I think…while the individual unit grows and evolves in > > relation to it…it also acts as an oppressor of the individual… Don’t > > worry Ash I think the symbols will evolve on their own…. > > What say my fellows?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
